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Date:      Fri, 14 Apr 2017 23:42:19 +0300
From:      Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
To:        "Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya)" <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>
Cc:        Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, Ngie Cooper <ngie@freebsd.org>, Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r316938 - head/sbin/savecore
Message-ID:  <20170414204219.GB70430@zxy.spb.ru>
In-Reply-To: <EC89EB67-7854-4DE6-BD40-2626FF993181@gmail.com>
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On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 01:33:36PM -0700, Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya) wrote:

> 
> > On Apr 14, 2017, at 13:26, Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org> wrote:
> > 
> > On 4/14/17, 3:19 PM, "Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya)" <owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org on behalf of yaneurabeya@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> On Apr 14, 2017, at 13:14, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> wrote:
> >> 
> >> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 01:49:51PM -0600, Alan Somers wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Ngie Cooper <ngie@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >>>> Author: ngie
> >>>> Date: Fri Apr 14 19:41:48 2017
> >>>> New Revision: 316938
> >>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/316938
> >>>> 
> >>>> Log:
> >>>> savecore: fix space calculation with respect to `minfree` in check_space(..)
> >>>> 
> >>>> - Use strtoll(3) instead of atoi(3), because atoi(3) limits the
> >>>>   representable data to INT_MAX. Check the values received from
> >>>>   strtoll(3), trimming trailing whitespace off the end to maintain
> >>>>   POLA.
> >>>> - Use `KiB` instead of `kB` when describing free space, total space,
> >>>>   etc. I am now fully aware of `KiB` being the IEC standard for 1024
> >>>>   bytes and `kB` being the IEC standard for 1000 bytes.
> >>>> - Store available number of KiB in `available` so it can be more
> >>>>   easily queried and compared to ensure that there are enough KiB to
> >>>>   store the dump image on disk.
> >>>> - Print out the reserved space on disk, per `minfree`, so end-users
> >>>>   can troubleshoot why check_space(..) is reporting that there isn't
> >>>>   enough free space.
> >>>> 
> >>>> MFC after:    7 weeks
> >>>> Reviewed by:  Anton Rang <rang@acm.com> (earlier diff), cem (earlier diff)
> >>>> Tested with:  positive/negative cases (see review); make tinderbox
> >>>> Sponsored by: Dell EMC Isilon
> >>>> Differential Revision:        D10379
> >>> 
> >>> The free space calculation is still uselessly conservative, because it
> >>> doesn't account for the fact that core dumps will always be either
> >>> spare or compressed.  The result is that savecore will frequently
> >>> refuse to save corefiles even when there's plenty of space.  I
> >>> proposed removing the space check altogether in
> >>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D2587.  However, I agreed to wait until
> >>> after the compressed core dump feature was merged, because then mostly
> >>> accurate space checks will be possible.  AFAIK the compressed core
> >>> dump feature still hasn't been finished.
> >> 
> >> Is posible (in the future) to use multiple swaps (on multiple disks)
> >> for save core dumps?
> > 
> >    Multiple swap devices is already handled by savecore(8), if one uses fstab(5) or dumpon(8). Otherwise, you must invoke savecore(8) on individual devices.
> > 
> >    As far as saving to multiple disks is concerned, I would hope that one is using a redundancy capable filesystem (zfs) or RAID-like technology (gmirror, graid, LSI Fusion’s RAID product line) to stripe and/or mirror the data across multiple disks.
> 
> …
> 
> > How do I use multiple devices to have the system dump on all of my swap?  I got a message about not enough space, but there (I think) was enough between multiple drives….
> 
> Something like:
> 
> - Create a zpool
> - Mount zpool to /crashdumps
> - Change dumpdir in /etc/rc.conf to be /crashdumps, e.g., echo ‘dumpdir=/crashdumps’
> 
> ?

No, something like:
% swapinfo
Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
/dev/ada0p2      33554432        0 33554432     0%
/dev/ada1p2      33554432        0 33554432     0%
Total            67108864        0 67108864     0%

> 
> PS The issue with lack of space might be the issue that Alan brought up earlier with compressed dumps and overly conservative free space checks, or it might be the fact that dumpdir (default: /var/crash) is full.





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