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Date:      Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:18:35 -0700
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com>
To:        "Andrey A. Chernov" <ache@nagual.pp.ru>
Cc:        Warner Losh <imp@village.org>, Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@cup.hp.com>, Will Andrews <andrews@technologist.com>, Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/etc Makefile src/include Makefile src/release Makefile src/release/picobsd/build Makefile.mfs src/release/picobsd/custom Makefile.mfs src/release/picobsd/dial Makefile.mfs src/release/picobsd/install Makefile.mfs 
Message-ID:  <25873.964459115@localhost>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:50:32 %2B0400." <20000724085030.A28936@nagual.pp.ru> 

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> It is impossible to work in the project when unacceptable attitude and
> ways to "solve" we see becomes approved by principals of the project. This
> is not an emotions but pure practical and very sad for me conclusion.

I don't want to add further fuel to this fire, but I think Andrey is
being just a little too selective in seeing where attitudes or
solutions were flawed in this whole sad chain of events.  You can't
just commit something and then ignore a good week's worth of moaning
and screaming about it in various lists which you SHOULD be reading
without expecting something to happen.

Andrey basically did a hit-and-run on the tree and then declined to
participate seriously in the discussion and suggested fixes which
followed, a decision which makes any subsequent accusation of
dysfunctional communication or attitudes somewhat surrealistic at
best.  "Let he who is without sin..."

If Andrey still wants to leave the project over one comparatively
small set of changes then that's his perogative and he'll be missed.
He certainly won't be leaving because of what the principals did,
however, since he was entirely the architect of his own misfortune in
this affair and I hope that other committers have learned a valuable
lesson about how *not* to do things from it.

- Jordan


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