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Date:      Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:45:57 +0200 (MET DST)
From:      sos@FreeBSD.org
To:        alex@fa.tdktca.com (Alex Nash)
Cc:        bmk@fta.com, Eloy.Paris@ven.ra.rockwell.com, questions@FreeBSD.org, hardware@FreeBSD.org, hal@wwa.com
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors?
Message-ID:  <199606181145.NAA18166@ra.dkuug.dk>
In-Reply-To: <31C69327.32639FD9@fa.tdktca.com> from "Alex Nash" at Jun 18, 96 06:29:43 am

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In reply to Alex Nash who wrote:
> 
> Brant M. Katkansky wrote:
> > 
> > > I installed FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE a couple of weeks ago and since then I
> > > have been having programs exiting with signals 10 and 11, making my system
> > > too unstable to work as a dedicated e-mail server and as a PPP to Ethernet
> > > gateway.
> > 
> > [snip]
> > 
> > I had one given to me not too long ago.  Mine is plagued with various
> > sig 10 and 11's, same as yours.
> > 
> > Here's the interesting part - disabling the internal and external cache
> > makes the problem worse.
> 
> This should be fairly easy to explain: You have bad SIMMs.  While your 
> program is running, erroneous results are returned from RAM and the 
> processor tries to execute them.  Your program subsequently seg faults 
> due to an invalid instruction.  If your cache works properly and your 
> SIMMs don't, the cache can mitigate these effects since RAM accesses are 
> less frequent (thus missing the odd inverted bit somewhere :) ).  Disable 
> the caches and now you will be much more likely to see a bad SIMM in action.
> 

Hmm, just to add another datapoint:
I can run 2.1 on my 486DLC board, but -current will panic within
2 minutes with a page fault or semilar. I have a very strong
feeling that our Cyrix/486DLC support leaves much to be desired,
as I can make the system run better (not error free) if I disable
the Cyrix code in locore.s. It seems that using the BIOS defaults
(both caches on) runs alot better than what we are trying to do
to it.....
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Soren Schmidt             (sos@FreeBSD.org)             FreeBSD Core Team
               So much code to hack -- so little time.



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