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Date:      Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:59:10 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@picnic.mat.net>
To:        Christopher Masto <chris@netmonger.net>
Cc:        Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>, "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@newsguy.com>, Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>, FreeBSD Hackers <hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>, FreeBSD Committers <cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG>, Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>
Subject:   Re: Mandatory locking?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9908232256550.49952-100000@picnic.mat.net>
In-Reply-To: <19990823223645.A14001@netmonger.net>

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On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Christopher Masto wrote:

> > The thing about well-intentioned but incorrect locking code is that
> > it will appear to work fine, until it trips over the one code path
> > where it forgets to lock some file that it should have locked.  And
> > even then, the code will "work" just fine, until multiple processes
> > are accessing that file at the same time.
> > 
> > I think it is appropriate for an operating system to provide an option
> > such that *it* (the system) will enforce the locking, and not have to
> > trust that all code-paths in all programs will do the right thing
> > WRT advisory locking.
> 
> Dunno about that.. if you're using advisory locking, you know to say
> "lock the file, then read the data, do your calculation, write it out,
> and unlock".  This manditory locking sounds like an invitation for
> disaster.  "I don't need to pay attention to the details because
> the kernel will take care of it for me."
> 
> Actually, I don't really understand the paradigm.  Two processes need
> to safely update a file, so one of them aquires a mandatory lock, and
> the other.. uh.. just blocks trying to open the file?  How does it
> know it's not the first one?

It means that if user A puts data in (and follows locking procedure
correctly) then he doesn't have to worry that user B might not be
following correct locking procedure, because user B is mandatorily
forced to follow the procedure.  There isn't any added sloppiness, just
a guarantee that if one user locks a file, no other rogues can get into
it while the lock exists.

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