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Date:      Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:16:50 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Ralph Huntington <rjh@mohawk.net>
To:        "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." <kdk@daleco.biz>
Cc:        <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: security fixes
Message-ID:  <20020701161533.E50179-100000@mohegan.mohawk.net>
In-Reply-To: <009201c2213a$dd3a4b00$edec910c@fbccarthage.com>

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Well, that all makes enough sense. Yes, I know about production machines.
Got quite a few of them to be responsible for. And always have run RELEASE
but thought to ask for clarification about STABLE. Thanks to all who
replied.	- Ralph

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ralph Huntington" <rjh@mohawk.net>
> To: "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." <kdk@daleco.biz>
> Cc: <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 2:41 PM
> Subject: Re: security fixes
>
> >Hmmm... I would think STABLE is what one sould
> >want to run on a production
> >machine. I'm beginning to feel confused again.
>
> As opposed to -CURRENT, yes.  However,
> the committers want everyone to realize that
> once in a while you might build -STABLE with
> something broken (albeit rare, as in the coincidence
> of the "blue moon" and "hen's teeth" together...)
> but it still could happen.  -RELEASE is a -STABLE
> that gets frozen for a while to see if any problems
> pop up, or if it can be crowed about and burned
> to CD with confidence (I hope the RELENG team
> doesn't think I'm minimizing their hard work here.)
>
> Some people read the warning about -STABLE in
> the Handbook (that I quoted earlier) and decide only
> to run -RELEASE and patch security fixes, and
> there is a cvs tag for this, called RELENG_4_x.
> This is where a little confusion comes in, because
> after a while they quit patching the older releases.
> The official line is that it's the current release (4.6)
> and the last (4.5) that are being patched, so if
> you're still running 4.4-R, (for example) you're no
> longer sure you can cvsup with RELENG_4_4
> and get any new patches.
>
> As I said, -STABLE's running fine for me
> right now and has everytime I've tried it.
>
> [If there's confusion on the term "production
> machine," I take this to mean an active
> www/mail/file server that you can't afford
> to have downtime on....]
>
> KDK
>
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