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Date:      Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:55:34 -0600 (CST)
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
To:        Assad Khan <assad.khan@usa.net>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [Re: FreeBSD-VS-Linux---Some Venting from Linux's side!]
Message-ID:  <14960.44774.739060.400919@guru.mired.org>
In-Reply-To: <120548428@toto.iv>

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Assad Khan <assad.khan@usa.net> types:
> My venting is a result of some people equating Linux with Windows
> NT.

I didn't see anyone doing that. I saw people complaining that some of
the Linux distributions acted like Windows distributions, but that's a
different thing.

> I am more for unity than fighting. When I joined this list I thought
> I would find people that appreciated Linux and its efforts,
> unfortunately it was otherwise. We Linux users regard BSD as a big
> brother to Linux, but you seem not to act that way.

You're right, I don't. Linux is a nice, SysVish system that benefits
from Open Source. If I was interested in such, I'd find a Linux
distribution I liked.

Linux also makes a nice desktop system, with better support for
oddball hardware, and distributions built to cater to Windows
users. The latter I don't want, and would avoid in a BSD system as
well as a Linux system. The former I'm willing to give up to get BSD
instead of SysV.

	<mike

> Joe Oliveiro <joe@advancewebhosting.com> wrote:
> Microsoft is great at com calls, you dont see me running it. From past
> experiences converting high traffic servers from NT -> Linux -> BSD, BSD
> IS the better of the three. Never have the servers which i run been so
> stable. As for the 2.4.0 Kernel, it was just released. Im sure there will=
> 
> be plenty of root exploits, bugs, problems (as always) with it to soon be=
> 
> found.
> 
> You've said it yourself, BSD has a 20+ year headstart over linux so logic=
> 
> would say that it is the better OS. My understanding is that the BSD code=
> 
> audit is better than linux, which explains why the amount of exploits for=
> 
> BSD servers/services are non-existant compared to linux.
> 
> As for Linux being better than NT? Ofcourse it is but hey, which OS isnt
> better than NT?!
> 
> Microsoft: "Where would you like to go to today"
> Linux: "Where would you like to go tomorrow"
> FreeBSD: "Hey,when are you guys going to catch up"
> 
> 
> On 25 Jan 2001, Assad Khan wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > =
> 
> >     I have been seeing a FreeBSD-VS-Linux war on this mailing list and =
> it
> has
> > disturbed me beyond tolerance. Which drove me to write this e-mail.
> > =
> 
> >  First I want to tell everyone that I love everything thats opensource =
> and
> > free, that includes FreeBSD,Linux,OpenBSD and NetBSD. But my most loved=
>  OS
> is
> > Linux for the following reasons.
> >   For its age Linux has gone farther than any other OS has, including
> *BSD's.
> > The BSD's have a history of 20+ years and you are trying to prove that =
> its
> > superior as compared to Linux? Give me a break! If they werent superior=
> 
> even
> > now, then they did not deserve to be used at all. Plus Linux was writte=
> n
> from
> > scratch, even though it was derived from Minix it did not contain any
> foreign
> > source code. While the BSD's contained actual AT&T code for quite some =
> time
> > and then they built upon that when they 'migrated' to 4.4BSD. Linux has=
>  a
> more
> > open model of developement as compared to any of the BSD's. With the
> release
> > of kernel 2.4.0 for Linux, its now an official gladiator in the arena o=
> f
> > Enterprise computing (although it is already running one of the most
> heavily
> > visited sites namely google.com,freshmeat.net...). Microsoft hates Linu=
> x's
> > guts while it seems to embrace the BSD's, for this reason alone is Linu=
> x
> worth
> > using! =
> 
> > =
> 
> > This discussion could go on without an end, but my point is not to prov=
> e
> that
> > Linux is better than FreeBSD or any other BSD but to say that Linux has=
> 
> done
> > much to improve and its BETTER than NT (for some of you falmers kind in=
> fo).
> > And watch out, Linux is fast improving and *very* soon the BSD's might =
> seem
> > redundant with Linux around!
> > =
> 
> > Regards,
> > Assad Khan.
> > =
> 
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