Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 18:56:41 +1000 From: "Doug Young" <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au> To: "Julie" <jar557@ix.netcom.com> Cc: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: SMP Message-ID: <033401bf7149$42a4ef80$827e03cb@ORACLE> References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0002051953420.1795-100000@boris.netgate.net> <020301bf70b3$3a8eb0b0$827e03cb@ORACLE> <389DCA23.CF288614@ix.netcom.com> <025c01bf70e3$0960f720$827e03cb@ORACLE> <389DE659.D6317302@ix.netcom.com>
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You are obviously a lot more persistent or maybe smarter than I am. I tried slackware / Redhat / Mandrake / Debian and never failed to get apparently insurmountable problems everywhere ..... since I got the message and changed over to "proper" unixes I've started making some headway. Its been said in the -questions list before but still bears repeating .. FreeBSD is probably the optimal server platform, but at least from my point of view its not necessarily the optimal desktop operating system. I never did like NT4 despite years of working with it, however Win2000 is something else again .... I've used it in several situations for over 6 months and found it very impressive. Personally I think FreeBSD is still a bit more reliable in server applications but I'd be surprised if Win2000 doesn't attract a huge following. I still have a couple of Win98 systems because despite its "features" its still probably the best thing for the average office user. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie" <jar557@ix.netcom.com> To: "Doug Young" <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au>; <questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 7:23 AM Subject: Re: SMP > Its simple, when I loaded slack7.0, using smp.i, instead of bare.i , then > ppp was no longer supported. So we went to install the bare.i and > recompile the kernel around it as smp, and that seems to be puking as > well. We are fixin to try one more thing and see if that works. But, the > move to FreeBSD is definately in the works as well. Never know, I might > end up with a working slackware, FreeBSD, NT, AND 98. This box is going > to have so many operating systems on it when Im done that it isnt going to > know its own name. > > ~Julie > > Doug Young wrote: > > > OK ...... still I can't see that SMP & PPP are an incompatible > > combination .... at least > > SMP & user-PPP, as my setup runs just fine. I have seen a number of > > reports of problems > > with the kernel-PPP but those look more like configuration issues than > > anything. The reason > > I moved from linux to FreeBSD was because of the seemingly endless > > problems I experienced > > with all linuxes I tried, especially when messing with the kernel. > > Even though there's been a steep > > learning curve, FreeBSD has been infinitely more straightforward :) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Julie" <jar557@ix.netcom.com> > > To: "Doug Young" <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au>; > > <questions@FreeBSD.ORG> > > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 5:23 AM > > Subject: Re: SMP > > > > > The problem that I have has nothing to do with overheating. Ive got > > the > > > proper fans and things, and the temps stay low. What I need is a > > system > > > that is going to run ppp, AND smp at the same time Without having to > > > revert back to point and click, ie, windows. > > > > > > Doug Young wrote: > > > > > > > FWIW I've been running an archaic dual P100 FreeBSD 3.2 box / SMP > > > > kernel as > > > > a gateway to my LAN for months without the slightest sign of > > > > overheating, even > > > > during a recent hot spell when local temperatures reached about > > 40C > > > > (inside the case > > > > would have been well over 50C) .... but then I never overclock > > CPU's. > > > > Another machine > > > > running a Celeron 400 with onboard temperature sensor started > > beeping > > > > frantically til I > > > > removed the covers & let some of the heat inside escape. I've > > never > > > > had a spontaneous > > > > reboot with FreeBSD (or SCO / Solaris / Win2000 for that matter) > > > > although I did run an > > > > AMD K6/2-300 with WinNT4 at one stage that did weird stuff like > > that > > > > fairly often. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "wellsian" <wellsian@caffeine.com> > > > > To: "Julie" <jar557@ix.netcom.com> > > > > Cc: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG> > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 2:18 PM > > > > Subject: Re: SMP > > > > > > > > > I'm not using PPP but one thing to watch for is that fbsd will > > load > > > > an SMP > > > > > system heavily even when "idle". This can tax cpu cooling on > > > > overclocked > > > > > systems and result in magical reboots. There are semi-recent > > threads > > > > on > > > > > SMP vs. overclocking somewhere in the stable or current group > > > > archives. > > > > > (use GeoCrawler until the natural version is resurrected): > > > > > > > > > > http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/FreeBSD/ > > > > > > > > > > One of my systems is running 2x366 celerons @458. Not impressive > > by > > > > most > > > > > standards, but those chips are borderline rejects. Using SMP > > heats > > > > them up > > > > > very quickly until the, uh, auxiliary fans kick in. > > > > > > > > > > Good luck, > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 5 Feb 2000, Julie wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 19:35:39 -0500 > > > > > > From: Julie <jar557@ix.netcom.com> > > > > > > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > > > > > Subject: SMP > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering if anyone has had any problems using SMP with > > > > FreeBSD. > > > > > > Getting ready to install it on a box with Dual Celeron 450's > > > > overclocked > > > > > > at 550, with 512 megs of ram. Had major issues getting > > slackware > > > > to > > > > > > run, the solution there being to install it with smp, then > > > > recompile a > > > > > > new kernel around the smp, that had ppp support. Just curious > > if > > > > anyone > > > > > > is having the same problems with FreeBSD. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help is appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Julie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the > > message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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