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Date:      Wed, 9 Mar 2016 15:14:52 +0100
From:      Marten <info@martenvijn.nl>
To:        Willem@Offermans.Rompen.nl, freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: nanobsd and mutli vap support
Message-ID:  <9E0C897C-8C93-4FE0-82A3-42E5FBF07D67@martenvijn.nl>
In-Reply-To: <20160309132514.GD32028@vpn.offrom.nl>
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> On Mar 9, 2016, at 2:25 PM, Willem Offermans =
<Willem@Offermans.Rompen.nl> wrote:
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> Dear Marten and FreeBSD friends,
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> On Wed, Mar 09, 2016 at 01:49:32PM +0100, Marten wrote:
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>>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 11:54 AM, Willem Offermans =
<Willem@Offermans.Rompen.nl> wrote:
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>>> Hi Marten and FreeBSD friends,
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>>> On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 11:38:22PM +0100, Marten wrote:
>>>> Hi,
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>>>> While it tool me a while how get multi  VAP support working on =
FreeBSD I made a write
>>>> up how to get it working=E2=80=A6 The site is in dutch, but I think =
the drawing and configs
>>>> are clear enough to save some people some time=E2=80=A6
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>>>> http://makerspaceleiden.nl/wiki/index.php/NetworkSetup_AP =
<http://makerspaceleiden.nl/wiki/index.php/NetworkSetup_AP>;
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>>>>=20
>>>> If another place a full english it wish feel free to copy and =
translate,
>>>> where off course I am willing to help...
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>>>> So thanks for all your work,
>>>> cheers Marten
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>>> Maybe I have missed the previous e-mails, but could you provide some
>>> context to your project on makerspaceleiden? I would be highly =
interested.
>>> What is ``Alix board'' you are referring to in your text?
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>> Hi Will,
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>> The Alix board are embedded soc boards from pcengines.ch =
<http://pcengines.ch/>;  here we also got the atheros wlancards, casings, =
pigtails and antenna=E2=80=99s.
>> If are looking for hardware you could also check soekris.com =
<http://soekris.com/>; .
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>> If you need some hardware for testing pls let me know..
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>> The MakerSpace a kind of offtopic on this list, so =E2=80=98ll email =
you a longer email off list.
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>> But in a null shell:
>> Our infrastructure runs FreeBSD on the core router/firewall, mqtt, =
mail , http server and NanoBSD on the accents points.
>> We have linux on the door system (RFID+Actuators) and LoraWan =
Gateway.
>> There some arduino-code on ESP=E2=80=99s (NodeMCU) for our sensor =
network that posts to the mqtt server..
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>> Kinds regards,
>> Marten
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> I'm planning to ``build'' wireless access points myself. I would love =
to
> run them on nanobsd. I prefer to have several networks at the end:
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> - admin net1
> - gebruikers net2
> - gasten net3
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> Basically the same as you provide in your NetworkSetup_AP. I imagine =
to
> tune a firewall such that the networks (i.e. net1, net2, and net3) are
> separated. So that the users (gebruikers) can use the services of an
> available server and the guests (gasten) can only use (a limited =
amount of)
> the internet and no access or only limited access to the server.
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> Would this be possible with your approach?
That is what we do, the filtering is done with pf on the router
and the router has some jails..
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> If yes, could you help me to do this project step by step.
in a limited timespan .. ( or hire me :) )
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> If yes, probably I need to order the appropriate hardware. Can you be =
more
> specific about the hardware you were using?
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> -Alix board? Which one?

i think this one:
http://www.pcengines.ch/alix3d2.htm =
<http://www.pcengines.ch/alix3d2.htm>;


> -The board needs to be in a case at the end. Which case?

I would reuse the current cases because i need more space for a 802.3at =
compliant poe splitter..

> -Which wireless network adapters?
> etc.
I have choose for 11a only and 11g only adapters no 11a/g
 try to find terminators for not user antenna connectors like:

http://www.pcengines.ch/mmcxterm.htm

so something like this

layer2 : modem <=3Duplink=3D> freebsd router <=3Dvlan trunk =3D> switch =
+ PoE <=3D> wlan trunk =3D> ap=E2=80=99s

layer3:  internet <->  router/firewall/dhcpd <-> ap <-> notebook

We have separate 802.3at compliant (try china) adapters to power the =
ap=E2=80=99s

I bought the hardware about 8 years  ago for another project,
you will need some time to familiarize your self with the hardware. =
Making a shopping list
is only a couple of ours work.

I am currenty ordering a http://www.pcengines.ch/apu.htm =
<http://www.pcengines.ch/apu.htm>; to see it can replace
my current 1U  router to have less power consumption and noise.

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> I might consider to write a detailed manual on this project. This =
would
> certainly help other people in developing such infrastructure.


That why i wrote the wiki page, i would be nice to get such content in =
the FreeBSD  handbook ...


cheers Marten


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