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Date:      Mon, 13 Mar 2000 00:39:47 -0500
From:      Dennis <dennis@etinc.com>
To:        Narvi <narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee>, Mike Smith <msmith@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Dennis' inability to fix the eepro driver
Message-ID:  <200003121707.MAA00474@etinc.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.1000312152226.13688b-100000@haldjas.folklore .ee>
References:  <200003112227.OAA05768@mass.cdrom.com>

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At 03:29 PM 3/12/00 +0200, Narvi wrote:
>
>On Sat, 11 Mar 2000, Mike Smith wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>> > Why haven't you considered hiring somebody to document the parts you are
>> > intersted in? Would solve at least half the problem...
>> 
>> To be fair to Dennis, it's not the cost of paying the dropout to fix this 
>> driver that's at issue here.  
>> 
>> Documentation for the eepro parts is not easy to get; I only have one 
>> outdated hardcopy, and I get all sorts of weird stuff thrown at me.
>> 
>
>Nah. It wasn't in response to anything that dealt with the driver. Nothing
>to do with eepro at all.
>
>It was in response to the rant about how everything was undocumented
>spaghetty code so few people could make any sense of that people were
>virtually dependant on those few. 

More communist propaganda.... :-)

My *point* was simply that, not only is it difficult to make major changes
to critical code without substantial documentation (all of us know that
something that *looks* wrong may very will be there for an obscure reason),
but when you do you lose the benefits of code improvements in the next
release unless you do it again. Its not realistic.

Plus, when you make a change, ANY problem with that driver, even if it has
nothing to do with the change, is your problem. So, by making even a minor
improvement, you take on a support responsibilty (as a commercial vendor)
for code that isnt yours and may be extremely difficult to debug.


dennis



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