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Date:      18 Apr 2002 23:59:30 -0700
From:      Ken McGlothlen <mcglk@artlogix.com>
To:        Mark Filipak <filipak@earthlink.net>
Cc:        freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Are you sure?
Message-ID:  <87y9fk18dp.fsf@ralf.artlogix.com>
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Mark Filipak <filipak@earthlink.net> writes:

| Okay, Ken. I'm downloading the four ISO images now.

Okay.  May I just gently point out that it's not necessary to do that?  You're
gonna get a LOT of stuff with those ISO images, and not all of it is going to
stay relevant for long.  Sure, we're starting you off with 4.5-RELEASE, but
we're gonna try to get you to the point where you're tracking 4.5-STABLE before
long.

I would actually recommend starting off with the boot floppies.  There are two:
kern.flp and mfsroot.flp.  You can read more about this in this part of the
Handbook:

    http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-pre.html

Specifically, Section 2.2.6 talks about the boot discs.  The following section:

   http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-start.html

talks about booting from the floppies.

The thing is, the floppies start you up with a minimum kernel.  You can then
work your way through the configuration screens, selecting what you need
(again, refer to the Handbook), and then that small kernel will FTP what you
need from the proper site.  You don't have to download 2.4GB of stuff; you can get by with a much smaller transfer by using the floppy-boot method.

| I picked FTP site 2 because I like the number "2".

A fine rationale.

| I don't know where this FTP site is located, but I'm clipping along in four
| windows at a little over 20 k-bytes/second/window -- 8 hours 'til liftoff.

Again, you probably don't have to wait that long if you go the floppy route.

| In the meantime, I will do the requisite reading but I'd like you to remember
| that you offered to help, Ken. I shouldn't need handholding, but you can hold
| my hand if you like.  ;-P

As long as it's not sticky, it won't injure my masculinity.  :)

| I need gateway + firewall + www server + mail + LAN server with 2 ethernet
| connections. I was told by a professional programmer friend in Sillycon
| Valley (my home until last year) that he could not get this configuration up
| and running. His solution was GallantWEB. I guess my solution will have to be
| freebsd-questions@freebsd.org.

Like most of ours.  The gateway + www server + mail stuff is pretty trivial.  I
recommend the rc.conf setting I mentioned earlier for the first one, Apache
(it's in the ports tree) for the second, and Postfix (ditto) for the third, but
that's just me.  You might want some alternatives, but we can talk about those
when the time comes.  I'm not sure what you mean by LAN server---do you mean
you want an SMB share running?  Or something else?  If you want an SMB share,
there's Samba, an excellent solution.  Again, the firewall stuff is harder, but
doable.

| PS: Do you like electronic music, Ken?

Depends.  I've heard some real awful stuff.  But I've been a fan of it since
the original Moog albums.

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