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Date:      Fri, 10 Mar 1995 12:33:27 -0700
From:      kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly)
To:        pascal@netcom.com
Cc:        freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: docs for tip(1), etc
Message-ID:  <9503101933.AA22910@junco.fsl.noaa.gov>
In-Reply-To: <199503101631.IAA24792@netcom15.netcom.com> (pascal@netcom.com)

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>>>>> "Richard" == Richard A Childers <pascal@netcom.com> writes:

    Richard> I've set up tip(1) and it's working great. Writing a
    Richard> short FAQ would be no problem if this document has not
    Richard> yet been created by another.

I recently submitted my revised FAQ entry (incorporating Jordan's
comments) for the serial communications section which includes help on
tip.  But, don't let that stop you from submitting any documentation!
It'd be nice if there was a manual, written in a tutorial style and
not the question style of a FAQ, that users could print out or could
get with the CD-ROM.

    Richard> Wonder if it's OK to modify the tip(1) code to become a
    Richard> little smarter, or if UCB would be annoyed ? ( Assuming
    Richard> it's the former - pretty sure. )

Well, you could certainly modify your own copy.

Moreover, a call-unit definition that users could specify in their
/etc/remote file would certianly go over.  That's what I'm planning on
submitting: a smarter dialer for today's popular Hayes-compatible
modems.

    Richard> I'm looking for expert help on setting on internal modems
    Richard> for dialup, if there's anyone out there who'd care to
    Richard> volunteer to answer a few questions.

See the serial communications section of the FAQ---as soon as it's
incorporated!

    Richard> Having some problems getting the outgoing login prompt to
    Richard> be issued at the right baud rate ... wonder if having a
    Richard> modem directly connected to the buss instead of accessed
    Richard> through a UART might not confuse things ... ?

What you need is a modem that uses a constant DTE-to-DCE speed but can
autobaud the DCE-DCE speed.  Use whatever command/dip switch/incantion
is necessary to get your modem to do that and save that as its reset
state.  You should also have your modem hangup and reset when DTR goes
from on-to-off.  Have it use RTS/CTS or no flow control at all.  And
have it assert carrier detect only when it really detects a carrier.

And in /etc/ttys, specify the constant DTE-DCE bps rate.  For example:

  ttyd1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.57600" dialup on insecure

--k



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