Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 18:15:22 -0800 From: Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net> To: Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD PowerPC ML <freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org> Subject: FreeBSD 10.1 PPC64 on XServe G5 hangs at Openfirmware Loader [likely an example of a long standing problem] Message-ID: <DB500816-8269-40E0-985E-5A91FCD369F1@dsl-only.net>
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I've included a reminder (a past exchange) that makes this report sounds = like a long standing problem with powerpc64 10.x-STABLE .iso's burned to = CDs for PowerMac G5's. As I remember 10.0-RELEASE's .iso worked and is eventually how I = bootstrapped. 10.1-RELEASE did not work when I tried it. (See = https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-November/007328.html = .) I've never had 10.x-STABLE .iso's work in a PowerMac G5. (I've no XServe = access, just access to some desktop PowerMac G5's.) My tries do not go = all the way back to the first 10.0-STABLE .iso, however. As I remember I = started trying in 2014-Apr or so. Eventually I stopped checking each new = 10.0-STABLE but did check some as time went on. From: Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? [.iso based CD boot = problems exist for PowerMac G5's too] Date: July 26, 2014 at 11:40:28 PM PDT To: Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net>, freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Interesting. It seems loader is broken. I just tried with a 10.0-STABLE = image and can reproduce the problem -- 11 oddly is OK. What really = perplexes me is that the powerpc and powerpc64 loaders are identical, = since loader is built 32-bit in either case. Super weird. I'll try to = get it fixed. Thanks for the problem report and reminder! -Nathan On 07/26/14 23:33, Mark Millard wrote: To make clear about the "/" in the line: and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The fans = then gradually spin up. This "progress indicator" is the repeating sequence -, \, |, /. It = always stopped with / as I remember. But I've no clue for if that is = from the repeating sequence or is the leading / from = /boot/kernel/kernel. At this point I'm limited to reporting just the = visual result, not the internal stage it is tied to. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net> wrote: First I quote what I wrote about when the hangups occur on the G5's = (combining quotes from the two messages so the overall notes are easier = to understand): For a C-key style boot it hangs shortly after displaying loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The fans = then gradually spin up. In other words: It hangs just before it would normally display the line = that includes the text: /boot/kernel/kernel The original messages were: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007029.html and http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007056.html Even the /b prefix from /boot/kernel/kernel did not show up even though = /boot/defaults/loader.conf did show up just fine. As for trying 11-CURRENT: I've not tried 11-CURRENT for anything yet. = And, unfortunately, I'm now away from the PowerMacs for weeks so I will = not be doing new experiments for several weeks. I can try once I get = back. All the 9.2/9.3-STABLE's that I tried worked. And 10.0-RELELASE worked. = Any 10.0-STABLE from before about Apr-27 I've never tried: Late April is = about when I started the experiments with PowerMacs. Also: I had no troubles with 10.0-STABLE for powerpc on PowerMacs. = PowerPC64 on PowerMac G5's is where I had problems. (I do not have other = kinds of PowerPC equipment available.) =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net On Jul 26, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net> wrote: This boot issue from .iso's (burned to CDs) is not specific to emulation = (assuming it is the same problem in both places). I'm afraid that it sounds like PowerMac G5's hang the same way/place = whenever I've tried a fairly modern PowerPC64 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to = a CD. I was able to boot 10.0-RELEASE's .iso burned to a CD. I've not = tried emulation. Having an initial FreeBSD running I tend to use the MANIFEST and .txz = files with "bsdinstall auto" to make new from-scratch (not = buildworld/buildkernel) installations when I want such. My notes on the G5 boot issue for the .iso's burned to CD's were = reported in: (I'm not near the PowerMacs, unfortunately) FreeBSD 10-STABLE powerpc64 r266807 CD PowerMac7, 2 (and 7, 11) boot = hangs very early in the process Has anyone booted a G5 PowerMac from a recent 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to = CD? A multi-processor one? =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net
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