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Date:      Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:48:21 +1000 (EST)
From:      Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au>
To:        "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" <gaijin.k@gmail.com>
Cc:        Josh Paetzel <josh@tcbug.org>, stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Lenovo Thinkpad t61p and FreeBSD?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.1080609134148.1389A-100000@gaia.nimnet.asn.au>
In-Reply-To: <1212951813.1139.0.camel@RabbitsDen>

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On Sun, 8 Jun 2008, Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko wrote:
 > On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 07:45 -0500, Josh Paetzel wrote:
 > > On Wednesday 04 June 2008 07:25:13 am Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 > > > On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 11:13:27AM -0400, nlaroche@vt.edu wrote:
 > > > > Quoting nlaroche@vt.edu:
 > > > > > Quoting Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@FreeBSD.org>:
 > > > > > > Based on my experiences with my workplace-provided T60p, it's safe to
 > > > > > > say I'll never recommend a Lenovo product.  The temperatures of these
 > > > > > > laptops are absolutely insane, supported by an incredibly loud fan. 
 > > > > > > I'm not interested in a product that can have a GPU reaching
 > > > > > > temperatures of almost 70C **while idling**.
 > > > > >
 > > > > > I purchased a T60p about two months ago and I haven't had any of these
 > > > > > happen (yet?) running Ubuntu 7.10. The machine only gets slightly warm
 > > > > > to the touch after a few hours idling.
 > > > > >
 > > > > > Does your fan run all the time that loud? I'm wondering if there were
 > > > > > changes made at the factory to fix this type of problem if it was wide
 > > > > > spread.
 > > > > >
 > > > > > Regards,
 > > > > > Nick LaRoche
 > > > >
 > > > > That was a T61p not a T60p
 > > >
 > > > It really doesn't matter in this case; T60p, T60p (widescreen), T61p,
 > > > X60p, etc...  They all behave the same way when it comes to
 > > > temperatures: incredibly high, sometimes to the point of the system
 > > > shutting off (for some).
 > > 
 > > My T60p is really unusable for anything cpu intensive under FreeBSD.  Even 
 > > with the ibm acpi addons loaded and the fan set to it's highest setting it 
 > > only turns at 3700rpm, which isn't enough to keep it from shutting down due 
 > > to heat.  (eg over 100C)
 > > 
 > > I'm interested in whatever cooling solutions people have...
 > > 
 > You can read through this thread:
 > 
 > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=141019+0
 > +/usr/local/www/db/text/2008/freebsd-acpi/20080217.freebsd-acpi
 > 
 > which mentions at least two ways to approach it -- the right one is from
 > the referenced message forward. 

Hi Alex, glad to see you're still keeping track of these issues ..

In there ume@ says that his patch was committed .. do you know if it was
MFC'd back to 7.x?  6.x?  Perhaps the docs haven't caught up yet?  There
are only going to be a lot more of these around .. 

cheers, Ian




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