Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:26:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg <feenberg@nber.org> To: Kurt Jaeger <lists@opsec.eu> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ? Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.11.1407201809490.20643@sas1.nber.org> In-Reply-To: <20140720214629.GF197@home.opsec.eu> References: <53C706C9.6090506@com.jkkn.dk> <20140718110645.GN87212@FreeBSD.org> <20140718151255.b3e677d9.gerrit.kuehn@aei.mpg.de> <CALfReycHtSi5GXgFZihrTsgDG6wc-ZfkYmQu7AjQmOKdeXntrA@mail.gmail.com> <CAEeRwNV3bJrM5KrGObZtNvSY1mVMW9jz2M4t2m2SSq_vvWmZ5w@mail.gmail.com> <CALfReyfWJd7YOi_Y8Mq=Q-xndLueF7vU5xwc1w_YGyM1a9DQZA@mail.gmail.com> <53CA2D39.6000204@sasktel.net> <CALfReyfkZY1ZDNohP6npRVQfjBK2M6j59R8idUGazr1yJDX3Jg@mail.gmail.com> <20140720123916.GV96250@e-new.0x20.net> <alpine.LRH.2.11.1407201430030.2748@nber7.nber.org> <20140720214629.GF197@home.opsec.eu>
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2014, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > Hi! > >>> And you don't seem to get the point that _someone_ has to do the work. >>> No one has stepped up so far, so nothing is going to change. > > Franco Fichtner said he's interested in doing it. He probably > needs funding. > >> No one with authority has yet said that "If an updated pf were available, >> would be welcomed". > > Which person or group would you view as "authority" in this case ? > I am not privy to the inner workings of the project, but surely a decision of this importance would come to the attention of the core team, who are listed at: http://www.freebsd.org/administration.html#t-core A port of OpenBSD PF may be quite impractical or undesirable- I have no idea. However, if all potential contributions are viewed as criticism to be refuted, it will damage the ability of the project to attract contributors. Rather than telling a potential contributor that their efforts will never be included in the official distribution it would be more supportive of the project to say that a port of PF would be welcome as a port, but might have difficulty displacing current offering. That doesn't promise anything, but encourages involvement, if indeed involvement is desired. Daniel Feenberg > -- > pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 6 years to go ! >
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