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Date:      Sun, 20 Jul 2003 13:15:07 -0600
From:      Joe Warner <rootman22@comcast.net>
To:        wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG (Bill Paul)
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Nvidia Licensing Question
Message-ID:  <200307201315.07253.rootman22@comcast.net>
In-Reply-To: <20030720180146.5E12F37B401@hub.freebsd.org>
References:  <20030720180146.5E12F37B401@hub.freebsd.org>

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Thanks Bill,

I didn't think it had anything to do with licensing but
I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak.

Thanks for the explanantion.

-- Joe



On Sunday 20 July 2003 12:01 pm, Bill Paul wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was talking to someone recently about why there isn't
> > support for Nvidia's Nforce drivers under FreeBSD yet.
> >
> > He said:
> >
> > "This might have something to do with the fact that the NIC driver is not
> > GPL licensed. See the "License" section of the nForce Linux readme:
>
> [...]
>
> It has nothing to do with licensing. The NIC driver is _NOT_ provided
> in source code form. Yes, they may have stuck it in a section that
> says 'driver source code,' but if you actually download it and look
> at it, you'll find that all of the brains of the driver is inside an
> object module for which there is no source code.
>
> If the driver source code was available, then one of two things would
> occur:
>
> - We would discover that the chip is in fact not nVidia's own design,
>   but a some other vendor's design which they have licensed (this is
>   what they did previously, when they licensed a NIC from 3Com). If
>   this turned out to be the case, and the NIC is already supported
>   by another FreeBSD driver, we could tweak it to handle nVidia's
>   chip.
>
> - We would be able to strip out all of the register and DMA structure
>   info from the Linux driver and write a FreeBSD driver (assuming the
>   engineer who wrote the driver didn't try to obfuscate the code or
>   was lazy about transcribing register info from the programming
>   manual).
>
> I would prefer being able to just get the programming manual from
> nVidia and write a driver from scratch, but I don't have any nVidia
> contacts or any info about why nVidia is being such a pain in the
> ass about releasing info concerning this NIC.
>
> -Bill
>
> --
> ===========================================================================
>== -Bill Paul            (510) 749-2329 | Senior Engineer, Master of Unix-Fu
> wpaul@windriver.com | Wind River Systems
> ===========================================================================
>== "If stupidity were a handicap, you'd have the best parking spot."
> ===========================================================================
>==



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