Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 12:27:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Chang <richardc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU> To: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> Cc: jehamby@lightside.com, terry@lambert.org, lenzi@cwbone.bsi.com.br, ports@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lesstif (motif compatible) package. Message-ID: <Pine.PTX.3.91.960411122540.24231s-100000@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU> In-Reply-To: <199604111819.LAA04358@phaeton.artisoft.com>
next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
On Thu, 11 Apr 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Speaking about motif, is there anyway to have the same X > > environment as in what is used on SUNOS 5.3 (Solaris) on SUN Sparc5's and > > what is used on HP Apollo Workstations with the same desktop under FreeBSD? > > You mean 5.4 (Solaris 2.4)? That's the first one that shipped with > Motif instead of OpenLook (OpenWindows). It should be 5.4 since one looks closer to motif... > The HP environment is called "VUE". It's Motif plus some tools, like > the little control/button box at the bottom of the screen, some drag > targets (for printing, etc.), a clock, and a file manager. > > HP VUE is a component of CDE (the Common Desktop Environment), which > is available as a seperate disk for Solaris (2.x SunOS -- SVR4) systems. Okay... > There are companies selling CDE; generally the licensing of CDE is > only slightly more expensive than Motif (unless you are Novell or > some other comany and can "trade" technology so you don't have to > pay any of the OSF or HP royalties). > > > My problem with CDE (and Motif as a component of CDE) as a standard > is that you must pay to license the technology. It is effectively a > standards-granted monopoly on UNIX user interfaces. > > The intent, obviously, is to require a "buy-in" to be allowed to > compete in the UNIX market. > > > Without the "buy-in" or the type of trades Novell (now SCO, I guess) > and the other big vendors have engaged in using imaginary money to > drop the royalty costs, this means that the cost to the free systems > for the same technology is more than the cost of a commercial system. > > That's why I approve of a project *like* Lesstif, even if I don't > approve of the implementation practices or licensing of Lesstif > itself (I'd *really* like to see a "FreeCDE" project). > > > So there is a way: license CDE seperately from a third party that > doesn't have a royalty buy-off, and pay through the nose for it. > > 8-(. Hmmm, is there anything even close to CDE for fwvm? or has the same functions? Richard
Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?Pine.PTX.3.91.960411122540.24231s-100000>