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Date:      Sun, 06 Jan 2008 14:50:47 +0100
From:      Ivan Voras <ivoras@freebsd.org>
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: When will ZFS become stable?
Message-ID:  <flqmbo$eac$1@ger.gmane.org>
In-Reply-To: <4780D289.7020509@FreeBSD.org>
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Kris Kennaway wrote:

> kmem problems are just tuning.  They are not indicative of stability=20
> problems in ZFS. =20

I disagree - anything that causes a panic is a stability problem. Panics =

persist AFTER the tunings (for i386 certainly, and there are unsolved=20
reports about it on amd64 also) and are present even when driving kmem=20
size to the maximum. The tunings *can not solve the problems* currently, =

they can only delay the time until they appear, which, by Murphy, often=20
means "sometime around midnight at Saturday". See also the possibility=20
of deadlocks in the ZIL, reported by some users.

> Please report any further non-kmem panics you experience.

I did, once to Pawel and once to the lists. Pawel couldn't help me and=20
nobody responded on the lists. Can you perform a MySQL read-write=20
benchmark on one of the 8-core machines with database on ZFS for about=20
an hour without pause? On a machine with 2 GB (or less) of RAM,=20
preferrably? I've seen problems on i386 but maybe they are also present=20
on amd64.




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