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Date:      Sun, 10 Feb 2002 13:07:00 +0100 (CET)
From:      Oliver Fromme <oliver.fromme@secnetix.de>
To:        cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us (Chris Dillon)
Cc:        oliver.fromme@secnetix.de (Oliver Fromme), jhb@FreeBSD.ORG (John Baldwin), groudier@free.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Roudier?=), hackers@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Hackers Mailing List), hardware@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Hardware Mailing List), olli@secnetix.de (Oliver Fromme), gene@nttmcl.com (Eugene M. Kim), tlambert2@mindspring.com (Terry Lambert), joe@tao.org.uk (Josef Karthauser)
Subject:   Re: USB "Memorybird" quirks
Message-ID:  <200202101207.g1AC70112360@lurza.secnetix.de>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.32.0202091346530.68820-100000@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us> from "Chris Dillon" at Feb 09, 2002 01:51:32 PM

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Chris Dillon wrote:
 > On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Oliver Fromme wrote:
 > > I think that would be a very good idea.  The boot software issue
 > > is negligible, because there aren't any USB devices you can boot
 > > from.
 > 
 > You mean can't boot from USB devices in just FreeBSD, or anywhere?
 > I've not actually tried it yet, but many motherboard vendors have
 > added the ability to boot from USB ZIP drives and probably other USB
 > mass storage devices to their BIOSes, so it at least should be
 > possible.

Good point.  I didn't know that (my BIOSes certainly can't
do that).  Then I'd be interested how those BIOSes access
the umass devices.  They certainly don't contain a list of
quirks, and I guess they don't try 6-byte commands at all
and then fall back to 10-byte.

According to Gérard's information, I assume that all USB
umass devices are new enough to be able to handle 10-byte
commands.  USB is certainly newer than the SCSI-2 standard.

Regards
   Oliver

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