Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 22:32:12 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Bumgarner <bbum@codefab.com> To: Kent Stewart <kstewart@urx.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: port problems on clean install Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10011182224250.20256-100000@bjork.codefab.com> In-Reply-To: <3A174504.C5B0BDDD@urx.com>
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Interesting. I will have to write up some feedback regarding the installation process-- there are aspects of it that left me a bit befuddled. I come from a background of numerous years of dealing with NeXTSTEP/OpenStep/Linux/Solaris, so I'm not a novice. However, I'm no admin, either... In brief, more explicit mention of: - driver config UI does *not* include PCI devices (it would also be helpful to have a probe-and-reconfigure option... i.e. config something, do a probe, see what happens, adjust config, repeat...) - Setting the time shoul mention something about daylight savings time - if the ports directory won't build off of the CD image as downloaded (this was not a nightly image, but a -STABLE) and the instructions for updating it would be helpful. - a brief mention/inventory of the tools/processes used to do an update; i.e. "Before you try to build a port, make sure you use 'cvsup blah blah blah' to upgrade the ports directory". - the xemacs/emacs packages are confusing; I still haven't found which package actually contains a xemacs binary. Do I have to install the MULE version?? In general, the documentation/howtos/handbooks/etc are excellent; incredibly helpful and some of the best documentation around-- better than things I have PAID for. However, they reflect that the authors are generally people that know this stuff inside and out from a very FreeBSD oriented perspective. Documentation that is slightly less centric to that background would be very helpful. In any case, thank you for the feedback-- I can try to actually turn some of this criticism into useful additions to the documentation, if that would be useful. thanks again! b.bum On Sat, 18 Nov 2000, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > Bill Bumgarner wrote: > > > > Am I correct in assuming that one should be abel to cd into any of the > > ports in /usr/ports/ after a clean install from a 4.11 cd, type "make > > install" and it should "just work"? > > I wouldn't think so because the ports have all been rearranged and you > don't have the rearranged structure. Many of the ports have been > upgraded and you don't have that. I think a cvsup of ports-all would > fix that. > > Kent > > > > > It definitely isn't on my system. When checking to see whether the > > build environment is sane, it complains that "newly created file is > > older than system file". > > > > The date/time on the system is correct-- though, looking more closely, > > it appears that it is not taking into account daylight savings time? > > Actually, there doesn't appear to be any option anywhere for either > > setting daylight savings time OR setting the computers clock during > > setup. This *really* should be a part of the setup as it can grossly > > impact a system's usability if the clock is wrong. > > > > b.bum > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com > http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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