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Date:      Mon, 08 Jan 2001 10:01:12 -0800
From:      Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>
To:        Soren Schmidt <sos@freebsd.dk>
Cc:        cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: please do not close the drive tray automatically. (was Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/ata atapi-cd.c) 
Message-ID:  <200101081801.f08I1Ce00819@mass.osd.bsdi.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 08 Jan 2001 08:24:20 %2B0100." <200101080724.IAA14072@freebsd.dk> 

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> It seems Matt Dillon wrote:
> >     Umm.  I'm going to be a pest:  If the drive tray is open the very=
 LAST
> >     thing I want is for the device driver to try to close it on me.  =
A
> >     windows box *destroyed* a CD (by scratching the hell out of it) t=
hat I =

> >     was trying to insert into the machine by closing the drive tray b=
efore
> >     I had the CD completely seated.  I do not want the same to happen=
 under
> >     FreeBSD just because some program (say, like sysinstall) tries to=
 open
> >     the CD device.
> =

> Hmm, I think its a pretty nice idea actually, maybe we should call a
> vote for this feature ? Whats happening on the voting thing that
> was talked so much about ?

Closing the drive tray at what is effectively a random time violates the =

user interface model for the CDROM.  I think it's a stunningly stupid =

idea (for the damage reasons that Matt gives as well as the semantic =

violations).

It's bad enough that some drives close as part of the reset cycle; doing =

it on first open would definitely be Not On.  Opening/closing the tray is=
 =

part of the media exchange cycle; in much the same way that a tape drive =

can eject a tape, but requires the operator to explicitly load one.

-- =

=2E.. every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his
rivals and unfortunately opponents also.  But not because people want
to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force
people to take different points of view.  [Dr. Fritz Todt]
           V I C T O R Y   N O T   V E N G E A N C E




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