Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:02:09 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht <mexas@bristol.ac.uk> To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Cc: cbergstrom@pathscale.com, jrisom@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore Message-ID: <20110718090209.GA96105@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <4e242fab.s4vpgxxZEUq0LFDq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20110717071059.25971662@scorpio> <CAGwOe2YpUXgFx1f_1UWHNt4S=p=X1Soa348KWR9BTrjxF0bAwA@mail.gmail.com> <4E22DFE9.7050007@pathscale.com> <201107172016.30727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <4E23989F.7010701@gmail.com> <4e242fab.s4vpgxxZEUq0LFDq%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
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On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 06:05:47AM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Joshua Isom <jrisom@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 7/17/2011 6:16 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: > > > On Sunday 17 July 2011 10:13:13 C. Bergstr??m wrote: > > >> I hope gnome does [go Linux-only].. Maybe then more > > >> people would forget about it and focus on making KDE better ;) > ... > > What about enlightenment? > > For us old-timers :) > > What's the advantage of any of these "desktop environments" (Gnome, > KDE, enlightenment, Xfce) over ordinary X11 with (say) FVWM2 or TWM? > Certainly there are some useful apps that, for better or worse, are > built with gtk or the KDE toolkit, but what does the full-blown > environment really contribute (other than bloat)? +1 mwm is all I need. Since it is a part of open-motif, which is required by few other important ports like xpdf, gnuplot and teTeX, I don't even need to install a separate twm. I'd speculate that the idea that one needs to install a fucking monster of a package A to do a job B, and then another fucking monster C to do a job D might be coming from Windows world. IMHO the old unix philosophy of having a combination of multiple simple tools to do a multitude of complex tasks is still true for modern FreeBSD. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423
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