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Date:      Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:16:35 -0800
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        des@des.no
Subject:   Re: Is MTX_CONTESTED evil?
Message-ID:  <20040326231635.GA91340@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <200403261404.57741.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <200403260230.i2Q2UTNZ097932@green.homeunix.org> <xzpekrgf103.fsf@dwp.des.no> <20040326.113751.14204546.imp@bsdimp.com> <200403261404.57741.jhb@FreeBSD.org>

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On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 02:04:57PM -0500, John Baldwin wrote:
> On Friday 26 March 2004 01:37 pm, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> > In message: <xzpekrgf103.fsf@dwp.des.no>
> >
> >             des@des.no (Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav) writes:
> > : "Brian F. Feldman" <green@FreeBSD.org> writes:
> > : > Well, that certainly explains the blitz of crashes I had to fix
> > : > recently!  Since INVARIANTS and WITNESS are on by default, it would
> > : > make sense to make ADAPTIVE_MUTEX default to catch more bugs.
> > :
> > : Making ADAPTIVE_MUTEXES default will not catch more bugs, it will just
> > : piss off users.
> >
> > I think that if we don't fix the class of bugs that AM points out,
> > we'll ruin our reputation as a quality system in the long run.  Maybe
> > they are so pervasive that we don't want to turn it on by default just
> > yet, but there will come a time we turn it on, just like we turned on
> > WITNESS and INVARIANTS to get better coverage on our testing.
>=20
> Right, let's not just gratuitously break everyone right yet.  It's actual=
ly an=20
> option largely b/c I want us to be able to benchmark it once our locking =
is=20
> farther along to see if it helps more than it hurts.

FYI, I'm going to run with this on the bento cluster for a bit to dig
out some of these bugs.

Kris

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