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Date:      Wed, 14 Sep 2016 15:56:37 -0700
From:      Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
To:        marino@freebsd.org, Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org>, "George L. Yermulnik" <yz@yz.kiev.ua>
Cc:        ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r422154 - head/misc/fortune_strfile
Message-ID:  <f76adfa0-627b-7e81-a005-30b1df941dcb@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <b685bc2d-cd4d-d496-ffa0-25f5f4c27290@marino.st>
References:  <201609141925.u8EJPJb8077087@repo.freebsd.org> <20160914214421.GA61341@yz.kiev.ua> <8724052b-ba0a-0e3b-9689-b869ae091e1f@FreeBSD.org> <3a1178ff-952c-c6e6-2253-3f74bdcaaff8@marino.st> <79dee31b-48bb-2f50-34ef-4825e465ccda@FreeBSD.org> <b685bc2d-cd4d-d496-ffa0-25f5f4c27290@marino.st>

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From: Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
To: marino@freebsd.org, Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org>,
 "George L. Yermulnik" <yz@yz.kiev.ua>
Cc: ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org,
 svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <f76adfa0-627b-7e81-a005-30b1df941dcb@FreeBSD.org>
Subject: Re: svn commit: r422154 - head/misc/fortune_strfile
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On 9/14/16 3:52 PM, John Marino wrote:
> On 9/14/2016 17:46, Bryan Drewery wrote:
>> On 9/14/16 3:33 PM, John Marino wrote:
>>> On 9/14/2016 17:30, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>>>> Le 14/09/2016 =C3=A0 23:44, George L. Yermulnik a =C3=A9crit :
>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 at 19:25:19 (+0000), Bryan Drewery wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Author: bdrewery
>>>>>> Date: Wed Sep 14 19:25:19 2016
>>>>>> New Revision: 422154
>>>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/422154
>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>>   Mark deprecated as it has no maintainer and is already in base.
>>>>> Am I using some broken FreeBSD installation?
>>>>> [--- cut ---]
>>>>> 00:41:56 [root#nb][w:2][j:0][~]> uname -srm
>>>>> FreeBSD 10.3-STABLE i386
>>>>> 00:41:57 [root#nb][w:2][j:0][~]> echo $PATH
>>>>> /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:~/bin:=

>>>>> 00:41:59 [root#nb][w:2][j:0][~]> fgrep GAMES /etc/src.conf
>>>>> WITHOUT_GAMES=3DYES
>>>>> 00:42:03 [root#nb][w:2][j:0][~]> which fortune_strfile strfile | wc=
 -l
>>>>>        0
>>>>> [--- cut ---]
>>>>
>>>> Ok, so, without GAMES, you don't have fortune. You then do not need =
to
>>>> have a fortune file, right ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Unless he uses that machine to build a package repository for other
>>> machines that do have fortune, which despite any objection, is a
>>> legitimate case.
>>>
>>
>> It's absolutely not.  Building packages in a jail should match the
>> target.  You cannot build with missing dependencies as many ports will=

>> see those dependencies missing in autoconf (or similar) and disable
>> features.  Even outside of a jail, the build should be done in a chroo=
t
>> matching the target.  It's basic cross-building.
>=20
> Absolutely false.  You don't need fortune to build fortune data files.
> I've already proven that.  You can't possible state that's not true.
> Only strfile is needed.  We're talking about a specific case, not a
> general one.
>=20

So why was it in BUILD_DEPENDS?

> I understand you are trying to justify rash behavior at this point but
> I'm not going let misinformation pass by.
>=20

Please respect the CoC.


--=20
Regards,
Bryan Drewery


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