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Date:      Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:44:58 -0400
From:      Sean Cavanaugh <millenia2000@hotmail.com>
To:        "'Zhihao Yuan'" <lichray@gmail.com>, "'Mike Meyer'" <mwm@mired.org>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <BAY165-ds20B969D626F44386E4C734CA950@phx.gbl>
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org =
[mailto:owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Zhihao Yuan
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 1:54 PM
To: Mike Meyer
Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD



Well, let's make it more straightforward. I hope people can agree with
this: a default, officially supported modern desktop environment is =
essential to FreeBSD.





This has already been answered. If you want a FreeBSD with a "default" =
graphical desktop environment, install PC-BSD. Otherwise FreeBSD is not =
really for the "install complete running workstation out of the box" =
crowd, Its more the "let me customize my system to exactly the way I =
want it" crowd, which has been a detriment to getting the silly linux =
fanboys to drop their script Kiddy style lifestyles of just accepting =
whatever their linux distro provides.

Therefore you will never see a default graphical option outside of the =
basics of X11. Besides, the options you mentioned are not part of the =
graphical window managers, they are plugins and other utilities that =
happen to run parallel and have GUI tie-ins. Most of them really are =
nothing more than console programs with a graphical config screen.




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