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Date:      Sun, 01 Nov 1998 17:41:01 -0500
From:      Drew Baxter <netmonger@genesis.ispace.com>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>, grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey)
Cc:        tlambert@primenet.com, wes@softweyr.com, scott@dcs.qmw.ac.uk, licia@o-o.org, jcwells@u.washington.edu, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Internet Explorer and UNIX
Message-ID:  <4.1.19981101173945.00af9ee0@genesis.ispace.com>
In-Reply-To: <199811012238.PAA29226@usr05.primenet.com>
References:  <19981102080413.G19187@freebie.lemis.com>

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At 10:38 PM 11/1/98 +0000, Terry Lambert wrote:
>> >> I don't think that's being creative.  We don't know how much Netscape
>> >> code is in IE, but Microsoft has abused Java code in there in
>> >> violation of the licensing restrictions.  In my book, that's piracy.
>> >
>> > By all means, let's artificially limit the number of applications
>> > that appear to run on FreeBSD by imposing political agendas
>> > unrelated to the agenda of FreeBSD advocacy, and unrelated to
>> > as yet unresolve court decisions.
>> 
>> 1.  This stuff doesn't run on FreeBSD.
>
>Solaris Binaries now run on FreeBSD, if you install the execution
>class loader and the Solaris shared libraries (to cover the gratuitous
>incompatability of FreeBSD with the IABI).
>
>I haven't personally tried to run IE, but there's little reason to
>believe that it wouldn't work.
>
>
>> 2.  I don't care too much about court decisions.  The evidence I've
>>     seen leaves no doubt that Microsoft is in deliberate breach of
>>     contract with Sun over the Java content.  In my book, that's
>>     piracy.
>
>Actually, that's "breach of contract" if you can prove it, and
>"libel" if you can't.
>
>It's not up to us to enforce Microsoft to comply with rules of
>law or even of some fuzzy definition of sportsmanlike conduct.
>
>
>> > Not.
>> 
>> Not for the first time, you're missing the point.
>
>
>You're the one missing the point.  I don't give a damn if Microsoft
>is Evil with a capital 'E', or if Bill Gates is The One True
>AntiChrist, with the 6's tatooed under his hairline to prove it.
>
>It's irrelevent and orthogonal to better advocacy of FreeBSD.
>
>
>Not that I think that Microsoft would put a FreeBSD daemon on
>the artwork for IE for Solaris in any case...
>
>But if they *did*, it'd be tantamount to diplomatic recognition of
>FreeBSD by the equivalent of a country on the UN Security council.
>
>And that's good for advocacy of FreeBSD.
>
>
>					Terry Lambert
>					terry@lambert.org

Interesting thought.  Personally I think the IE4 Logo should be a picture
of Bill Gates getting a bullet to the head, over, and over, and over..

At the same time, where abouts is the material on Solaris binaries?  I have
a Solaris box running 2.6 right now, if I don't need it, I can nuke it and
make it another FreeBSD box..


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