Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:15:16 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> To: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@MIT.EDU> Cc: Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>, Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net>, "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de>, Ed Schouten <ed@nuxi.nl>, freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: r286615: /usr/libexec/ftpd broken! Message-ID: <82D1C4B3-28A3-421C-B838-929DDC8C0E42@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <alpine.GSO.1.10.1508181204410.22210@multics.mit.edu> References: <20150811074041.6700e943@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> <20150811104451.2031fff2@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> <CABh_MKm9tD=Fa1MZTGLUkF=MF7y%2Bf8Oy6n3oy5Ty93pWrBohHA@mail.gmail.com> <20150818071559.4278987d@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> <CB8C88A1-5AC3-4E66-965B-D91D9724D147@xcllnt.net> <alpine.GSO.1.10.1508181137490.22210@multics.mit.edu> <20150818155755.GG3158@zxy.spb.ru> <A8136F89-29A4-4A41-AD5C-07C6705A2A37@gmail.com> <alpine.GSO.1.10.1508181204410.22210@multics.mit.edu>
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> On Aug 18, 2015, at 09:05, Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@MIT.EDU> wrote: >=20 >> On Tue, 18 Aug 2015, Garrett Cooper wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Aug 18, 2015, at 08:57, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> wrote: >>>=20 >>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:38:47AM -0400, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: >>>=20 >>>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2015, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>>> On Aug 17, 2015, at 10:15 PM, O. Hartmann <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.d= e> wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Port security/heimdal installs its own ftpd with its appropriate manp= ages. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Ugh :-( >>>>=20 >>>> I would argue that heimdal should not be in the business of supplying a= n >>>> ftpd. Kerberos-enabled ftp basically does not offer any advantages ove= r >>>> scp. >>>=20 >>> OPENSSH_NONE_CIPHER is OFF by default, i.e. ftp can give more speed. >>=20 >> More pragmatically, there are less ssh clients (openssh or bust really), >> whereas there are more ftp clients (Firefox, Chrome, ftp(1), python, >> etc). >=20 > I specifically said "Kerberos-enabled ftp". The things you listed do not > appear to qualify. Fair enough >.>=
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