Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:41:54 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon <avg@FreeBSD.org> To: tzim@tzim.net Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: zfs-root and "safe" atomic updates Message-ID: <4DDF8E02.4060108@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <63454684d7d46c2ef76cfcc979500612@tzim.net> References: <63454684d7d46c2ef76cfcc979500612@tzim.net>
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on 27/05/2011 14:08 tzim@tzim.net said the following: > I use zfs on / for quite some time now on 8-stable. > > Each time I want to update base, I use those steps : > > - zfs snapshot tank/root@old > - zfs clone tank/root@old tank/root.old > - csup / Rebuild world and kernel > - install world & kernel > - reboot > - (mergemaster and all usual post-update stuff) > > This way, if I unfortunately can't boot, I can revert to old userland & kernel by : > > - dropping into loader prompt > - setting vfs.root.mountfrom to zfs:tank/root.old > - booting kernel.old Just for the records, I would like to poin out that kernel.old would be loaded from zfs:tank/root. > - then rollback tank/root to pre-update snapshot and reboot (again) > > > I see 2 drawbacks to my method : > > - This wont work if the update screws the loader. > - I must be able to access the loader prompt (can't do it on a remote server). Yes. > Also, world is updated "in place". > > I think it should be possible to do the installworld & installkernel on a root > clone then boot into it (changing tank bootfs property), but then : how to revert > to previous state in case of failure ? Is there a "nextboot" thing planed for zfs ? I am not aware of any plans to implement nextboot for zfs as it would require at least some write support for zpool and there is none (for boot code) at the moment. > What do you think ? How do you address the problem ? I have some patches that allow to boot a different loader or a kernel from a different (non-bootfs) ZFS dataset: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2010-July/008976.html But that still requires access to zfs boot and/or loader command interface. -- Andriy Gapon
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