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Date:      Wed, 16 May 2001 10:40:48 +0100
From:      Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org>
To:        "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>, Randy Pratt <rpratt@ezwv.com>, Nik Clayton <nik@FreeBSD.ORG>, freebsd-docs@FreeBSD.ORG, Doug Young <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au>, Murray Stokely <murray@osd.bsdi.com>, Jim Mock <jim@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Install Preview (was Re: (was) I'm leaving, now something like "anti official docs rant" :) )
Message-ID:  <20010516104048.G72224@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>
In-Reply-To: <200105160129.f4G1TtF13540@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 06:29:54PM -0700
References:  <01051513051703.00373@k6-2.weeble.com> <200105151727.f4FHRos64816@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <01051515135804.00373@k6-2.weeble.com> <20010516093113.G26123@welearn.com.au> <200105160129.f4G1TtF13540@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com>

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On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 06:29:54PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> If memory serves me right, Sue Blake wrote:
> > One of the things I've always loved about this doc is that people using
> > text browsers like lynx get the "picture" too. Most people who use lynx
> > do so because they have no alternative (low memory machine or broken X
> > config or security restriction on the spare machine, or blind user) and
> > it is often so easy to include support for them if only a little
> > forethought is given to the task.
>=20
> Hmmm.  I haven't played with this much, but if Randy uses the FreeBSD
> DocProj infrastructure (based on DocBook based on SGML) there's some
> facilities for doing graphics with alternate textual representations.  I
> think that the few documents that use images (design-44bsd is done of
> them) will take advantage of this.  I know they can generate ASCII-only=
=20
> *.txt files correctly but I am not sure how this comes across in HTML.

Typically, you wouldn't look at the HTML -- if you don't want the
pictures, download the text version from the FTP site.

It wouldn't be a great deal of effort to add the text only versions to
the website as well.

> > In that respect you've done very well, Randy. It would be a shame if
> > those people lost their text "pictures" due to the demands of progress,
> > but I guess that's gotta happen one day.
>=20
> I sure hope it doesn't.  Keeping Web pages accessible to non-traditional
> browsers is a Good Thing (TM).

You can take it as read that I know this, and am in full agreement.

That's one of the reasons why image support took so long to come in --
it wasn't going to happen until the infrastructure supported text-only
equivalents as well.

N
--=20
FreeBSD: The Power to Serve             http://www.freebsd.org/
FreeBSD Documentation Project           http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/

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