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Date:      Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:31:49 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "/dev/null" <null@dnswatch.com>
To:        "cpghost" <cpghost@cordula.ws>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: boot banner project
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FWIW, the project *intends* to make itself an *option*, not something that
that needs to be disabled - which I think would be irresponsible in this
case.

-Chris H.
> John Sconiers wrote:
>
>>Adding less then a meg here or there is not bloat.
>>
> It is a mistake to assume that memory is cheap and always easily
> available and/or upgradable. There are quite a lot of embedded
> systems out there, that run FreeBSD out-of-the-box, without the
> need to tweak or manually remove all that unnecessary eye candy.
> Such systems come with RAM soldered on-board, so they are
> impossible to upgrade.
>
> If you really want a GUIfied installer (and please remember that
> some hardware like Soekris boxes don't even have VGA circuitery!),
> then please only as a port (that would create a custom boot image),
> or as an optional add-on. The default install should still be possible
> over serial line and on striped down hardware.
>
> The same holds true for boot banners: not every hardware out there
> has hires graphics capabilities.
>
> Regards,
> -cpghost.
>
> --
> Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/
>
>
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