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Date:      Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:38:40 -0500
From:      "Mark Felder" <feld@feld.me>
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Light humour
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 12:43:41 -0500, Bernd Walter <ticso@cicely7.cicely.de>  
wrote:

> Want to know link states use some strange tools.

This has been my complaint for ages.

Task / BSD / Linux
set ip / ifconfig / ifconfig or now "ip" which is extremely confusing
wifi / ifconfig / iwconfig
speed / ifconfig / miitool or ethtool
duplex / ifconfig / miitool or ethtool
vlan / ifconfig / vlan
wol / ifconfig / miitool or ethtool
bridge / ifconfig / brctl
link aggregation / ifconfig / flags while loading module OR use distro  
network config scripts and restart *all* networking or reboot server!!!


Zero guidelines or direction in their projects. It's even more painful  
when you install a distro and need to set vlan or duplex and you can't  
because the utility needs to be installed from the repository. Not sure if  
that's still commonplace but I was bit by it several times with debian  
installs.

BSD has its own problems, but code quality and the thought put into design  
seems to be taken into serious consideration before something is committed  
to HEAD.



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