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Date:      Wed, 04 Dec 2002 12:21:44 -0500 (EST)
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Oliver Blasnik <oliver.blasnik@de.tiscali.com>
Cc:        smp@FreeBSD.ORG, beemern <beemern@ksu.edu>
Subject:   Re: Intel SE7500CW2 narrowed down...
Message-ID:  <XFMail.20021204122144.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <015301c29ba9$737e98d0$1d0a310a@de.tiscali.com>

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On 04-Dec-2002 Oliver Blasnik wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
>> Lanny Baron wrote:
>> >
>> > "having converted" ?  Are you saying you dumped FreeBSD to use another
>> > OS due to a Server Board?
>> you better believe it
>  
>> i love fbsd, but i need *results* even more, and if that means i gotta
>> use linux so that i can make this system work and perform as needed,
>> well, my affections must give way to prudence
> 
> I fully agree to Nathan, I had the same problem and the same solution:
> use another OS. I really can't spend that much time to deploy which
> server board / manufacturer FreeBSD likes and which not. SMP is a thing
> that doesn't work atm, so I don't use FreeBSD for SMP anymore 'till
> it gets stable and compatible again. I sometimes can't believe that
> all the boards at least work _somehow_ with other operating systems,
> but not with FreeBSD. Even went back using sparc/solaris again...
> 
> My personal conclusion: SMP is for non-productional environment only,
> as every cvsup/upgrade/hardware change possibly breaks the whole system.

SMP is only broken on i386 for P4's on this one motherboard.  It works
perfectly fine on other motherboards.  As yet we haven't figured out
what exactly about this motherboard is broken.  I can tell you that the
way in which we startup CPU's is quite within the IA-32 spec and that
it's probably about 90% that this motherboard has some h0rked BIOS.  For
example, we already know that it needed a BIOS update for SMP to work
with Netware.  The problem with this motherboard is likely not a FreeBSD
problem and the best we can do is try to workaround it once we figure out
what it's problem is.

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John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>  <><  http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/
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