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Date:      Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:10:25 +1000
From:      "Andrew Kozak" <akozak@richardflanagan.com.au>
To:        <rpratt1950@earthlink.net>
Cc:        FreeBSD Newbies <freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Mailing lists (was RE: growfs question)
Message-ID:  <3FDCFBF0.000001.02096@akozak>
References:  <20031213091345.1ca7d655.rpratt1950@earthlink.net>

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Hiya Randy

Sound good, thanks very much for the tips I'll give that method a go for
sure :) 

Regards
Andy
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Randy Pratt
Date: 14/12/2003 12:15:11 AM
To: Andrew Kozak
Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org
Subject: Mailing lists (was RE: growfs question)
 
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:28:29 +1000, Andrew Kozak wrote:
 
> I find the -questions email list to be way too busy and technical
> to be of any use to me. Where do I find a "new user" oriented
> technical help list? I am now on the -questions list for the third
> time, the volume of mail is incredible, and following threads is
> entirely beyond me there, as most subject lines are meaningless to
> me, I have such a low understanding of the technical stuff. And the
> man pages and other documentation assumes knowledge not in
> evidence to me. In other words, can't make heads or tails of them,
> either.
 
You've ran into some of the same issues I had when I started using
FreeBSD/unix so I thought I'd offer some suggestions that you might
find helpful.
 
The volume of mail on some of the FreeBSD mailing lists can be
daunting. Its really not necessary to subscribe to the lists to
post a question. For this reason, people will cc you on any
responses to your question (or should). It might be wise to request
that you be copied if you don't subscribe as a reminder for those
that might forget.
 
Almost all of the lists are available for reading without subscribing
via the web:
 
http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/
 
The links to each mailing list contain the current week's postings
and its content is continuously updated. The online version is
archived early Sunday morning and then starts over. If you want to
browse old archives in threaded format, they can be accessed thru
the parent directory:
 
http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/
 
Personally, I find reading the lists in this manner preferable to
subscribing to each list and managing it locally. Once I found my
favorite lists, I made a local document which contained links
directly to those lists so that they're just a click away.
 
I've also made it a habit to save copies of posts that are of
interest to me for quick reference. It seemed to be much easier
than trying to find it again using a search engine.
 
I've found that reading the lists on a regular basis can greatly
add to your knowledge. Once you find something, try reading the
manual page on it. It takes a little practice to develop some
skill to read and understand manual pages (and often several
readings of the same thing). Manual pages are written primarily as
reference documents and not tutorials. Once you get the hang of
them, they are a valuable resource.
 
I'm fairly sure you'll get some responses to your query from the
questions list. Don't forget that people answering your question
are volunteering so be patient and courteous.
 
Best regards,
 
Randy
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