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Date:      Fri, 26 Apr 2019 03:47:59 -0400
From:      Mark Johnston <markj@freebsd.org>
To:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
Cc:        Wojciech Macek <wma@semihalf.com>, Wojciech Macek <wma@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r346593 - head/sys/sys
Message-ID:  <20190426074759.GA2695@spy>
In-Reply-To: <20190426073836.GP12936@kib.kiev.ua>
References:  <201904230636.x3N6aWQK057863@repo.freebsd.org> <20190425040817.GA3789@spy> <CANsEV8ca_y9EGxRQGoi%2BCMbCBn-8cfw_MJcRtujgP7vE0n_JKQ@mail.gmail.com> <20190425082222.GJ12936@kib.kiev.ua> <20190426060456.GA59853@spy> <20190426073836.GP12936@kib.kiev.ua>

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On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:38:36AM +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 02:04:56AM -0400, Mark Johnston wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 11:22:22AM +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 07:38:21AM +0200, Wojciech Macek wrote:
> > > > Intel does not reorder reads against the condition "if" here. I know for
> > > > sure that ARM does, but therestill might be some other architectures that
> > > > also suffers such behavior - I just don't have any means to verify.
> > > > I remember the discussion for rS302292 where we agreed that this kind of
> > > > patches should be the least impacting in perfomrance as possible. Adding
> > > > unconditional memory barrier causes significant performance drop on Intel,
> > > > where in fact, the issue was never seen.
> > > > 
> > > Atomic_thread_fence_acq() is nop on x86, or rather, it is compiler memory
> > > barrier.  If you need read/read fence on some architectures, I am sure
> > > that you need compiler barrier on all.
> > 
> > To add a bit, one reason to prefer atomic(9) to explicit fences is
> > precisely because it issues fences only when required by a given
> > CPU architecture.  There is no "unconditional memory barrier" added by
> > the diff even without the #ifdef.
> Well, atomic_thread_fence_acq() is the explicit fence.  And on x86 it
> does add unconditional compiler memory barrier.

I only mean that with atomic_thread_fence_acq() on x86, the CPU does not
see any fences.

Based on the original commit it seems that a compiler barrier is
required on all platforms, at a minimum.



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