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Date:      Wed, 28 Nov 2001 02:24:12 -0500
From:      Louis LeBlanc <leblanc+freebsd@keyslapper.org>
To:        questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: The Stupid Virus going arround.
Message-ID:  <20011128072412.GA20379@keyslapper.org>
In-Reply-To: <20011128070420.GB39649@nabokov.afc.vw.com>
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On 11/28/01 01:04 AM, Anthony Kim sat at the `puter and typed:
>=20
> Bara Zani <bara_zani@yahoo.com> types:
> > > where can i find vm ?
>=20
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2001, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > I'm not sure. It's an emacs/xemacs package, both of which are in the
> > ports - but I don't use the ports version of emacs, so I don't know if
> > they install the vm package. If you install xemacs, you can use the
> > xemacs package manager to add vm if it isn't there already.
> >=20
> > Anthony Kim <Anthony.Kim@vw.com> types:
> > > Let me throw in 2 cents for mutt+fetchmail+procmail with Maildir.
> > > I don't know how I could go without send-hook, mbox-hook,
> > > folder-hook, fcc-save-hook. You might say I'm hooked.
> >=20
> > You want hooks, vm's got'em - over 30.
>=20
> Is there a vm+vim? (Not counting emacs with vi-bindings). I'd be
> surprised if there were.

Mutt allows you  to use emacs, vi, or vim  as your composer/viewer, in
addition to the no frills (even  compared to vi) builtin composer. You
can  even configure  it to  color  certain text  to indicate  headers,
quotes, addresses, etc.,  just by tweaking a mail.vim  config. You can
even use urlview to open html links in the browser of your choice, and
can set your  mime types to tell  it how to open images,  view M$ Word
and Excel, pdf, etc. attachments inline. And it integrates nicely with
gnupg/pgp. You  can even learn cool  geek tricks to get  it to justify
your text! :)

The default key bindings  are similar to vi, so you  have much less to
learn off the bat.

> WRT: (x)?emacs+vm
>=20
> I use vim - best damn editor in the universe :wq! and maybe only 10% of
> it. Who was it that said, I tried using emacs, but prefer simpler
> operating systems.

Here  here!  I can't  use  anything  else  without noticing  my  blood
pressure go up. If I have to  touch that d@#&! mouse more than 5 times
a day, I get bothered. And I spend a LOT of time on the computer.

> Holy war? What holy war?

:D
L
--=20
Louis LeBlanc               leblanc@keyslapper.org
Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :)
http://www.keyslapper.org                     =D4=BF=D4=AC

Kinkler's Second Law:
  All the easy problems have been solved.

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