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Date:      Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:17:23 -0700 (MST)
From:      "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        ticso@cicely.de, ticso@cicely12.cicely.de
Cc:        julian@elischer.org
Subject:   Re: Reattach/redetect allways connected umass device - is it possible ?
Message-ID:  <20050329.091723.04191734.imp@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <20050329104549.GF28703@cicely12.cicely.de>
References:  <20050329.011633.33548829.imp@bsdimp.com> <42492C60.50005@elischer.org> <20050329104549.GF28703@cicely12.cicely.de>

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In message: <20050329104549.GF28703@cicely12.cicely.de>
            Bernd Walter <ticso@cicely12.cicely.de> writes:
: PC Card can be seen differently.
: Current PC Card usually implement an ata drive, but older JEDEC
: flash cards do not.

But we don't support older JEDEC flash cards :-)  If we did, however,
they would go away when the card was ejected...

: But since we don't create a JEDEC drive instance independend of
: media existence this is more an academic view.

Yes.

: In real world we see drive insert/eject with PC Card too.
: There is no drive without anything inserted.

Yes.  The drive and the controler both go away when you swap out the
CF card that's in a PC Card adapter.

: There are also points were things are not so obvious on the first look.
: CF ist one example.
: Technically it builds a whole ata drive in all three modes.
: But if we use it in an USB flash card reader we have to handle it
: as a media in a USB drive.

Correct.

Warner



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