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Date:      Wed, 10 Jul 2019 20:26:35 +0200
From:      "=?utf-8?Q?S=C3=B8ren_Schmidt?=" <deepcore.dk@gmail.com>
To:        Jedi Tek'Unum <jedi@jeditekunum.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" <arm@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: raspberry pi 4
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I have had very good experience with the old BananaPi, as one of the few =
early ARM boards it has native SATA and native 1G ethernet.
It also has a handy Li-ion charger circuit that can function as an UPS =
and an RTC with battery / supercap backup.
I=E2=80=99ve used many of these as small NAS/backup units that run on =
less than 5Watts.

However it has taken a lot of hacking and coding the missing pieces, so =
its not =E2=80=9Cworking out of the box=E2=80=9D

That platform is dated, so I=E2=80=99ve started working with the =
Espressobin V5 instead as a more modern substitute.
Thanks to this list and the excellent work done by other developers, =
lots of investigation and fiddling and adding code here and there I do =
have it booting and working good enough to be useful.

Mind you the same applies here, it needs a lot of handholding and =
knowledge to get working.

All these SBC=E2=80=99s are more or less prototypes, some end up in real =
products, but mostly its just toys for developers to wet their teeth at.

Just my 0.50 Dkr ;)

-S=C3=B8ren

> On 10 Jul 2019, at 19.58, Jedi Tek'Unum <jedi@jeditekunum.com> wrote:
>=20
> As a relative noob to SBCs running FreeBSD=E2=80=A6
>=20
> Seems to me that there are well-supported SBCs (although dated) such =
as Beagle Bone Black.
>=20
> As a consumer of this stuff, I=E2=80=99d welcome a short list of =
focused SBCs where I could just pick one of them. Provided that there =
are at least a couple of categories.
>=20
> My particular interest is in scaling down to serve in various embedded =
automation roles. I=E2=80=99m currently using (with Linux as more =
support for it only very recently appeared for FreeBSD) NanoPi NEO and =
NanoPi NEO 2. Besides being decent devices they are also classified as =
LTS. I=E2=80=99m going to be interested in even smaller devices like =
https://www.crowdsupply.com/groboards/giant-board =
<https://www.crowdsupply.com/groboards/giant-board>. I=E2=80=99m not =
hung up on any specific device, and would be more than willing to buy =
whatever is well supported.
>=20
> I fully recognize that most people are interested in more powerful =
devices. So maybe a primary device in each of 2-3 categories would be =
optimal.
>=20
> The unfortunate truth is that most of these things come out of the box =
with Linux support. Another truth is that a lot of the time they are =
manufacturers minimal attempt. Sometimes things don=E2=80=99t work and =
rarely do they get updated. So like Linux in general, there are pros and =
cons. I mention this because I=E2=80=99d rather see a few devices with =
really good support in FreeBSD rather than many devices with =
partial/poor support.
>=20
> Thanks for reading (and thanks to those that are doing all this work =
to support SBCs with FreeBSD).
>=20
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