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Date:      Sun, 19 Sep 1999 12:00:26 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com>, dg@root.com, Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: User block device access 
Message-ID:  <199909191900.MAA73792@apollo.backplane.com>
References:   <17169.937766010@critter.freebsd.dk>

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:>    the superiority of the raw device without taking into account the purpose
:>    of using the buffered device in the first place -- i.e. to be able to
:>    take advantage of its caching capabilities.
:
:And what I'm having a hard time finding is apps that does that.
:
:All the device using apps I know spend most of chapter one saying
:"ALWAYS USE RAW DEVICES" over and over and over.
:
:--
:Poul-Henning Kamp             FreeBSD coreteam member

    Your 'All' is a pretty narrow definition of 'all'.  Many applications
    implement caching of some sort, even if it's only caching of read-data. 
    The only restriction a database would have, for example, would be to
    require write-through rather then write-behind.  The data caching would
    still be extremely useful.  

    In fact, a memory-mappable buffered block device with write-through would
    be much, much more useful to a database then a character device, and I 
    think it's only a two line patch to make mmap() work, and probably a 
    four line patch to implement write-through.  It would be virtually
    unbeatable... use of mmap() removes the extra copy overhead, read-caching
    takes the burden off the application, optional write-through gives you 
    instant feedback *AND* reblocking.  I would even be willing to make the
    write-through the default.

    That would give us an extremely powerful and useful buffered block device
    implementation.

					-Matt
					Matthew Dillon 
					<dillon@backplane.com>


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