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Date:      Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:42:04 -0400
From:      Bill Moran <wmoran@iowna.com>
To:        Cynic <cynic@mail.cz>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Justification for using FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <3B2A029C.107C0014@iowna.com>
References:  <5.1.0.14.2.20010615015821.02135168@mail.cz> <5.1.0.14.2.20010615015821.02135168@mail.cz> <5.1.0.14.2.20010615055641.03f5dba0@mail.cz>

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Cynic wrote:
> IIS isn't as crippled as you might think from the majority of opinions expressed
> on unix-related mailing lists. My experience shows that most people would rather
> die than admit something different from their favorite toy is ok (let alone a product
> of the Redmond Satan!). IIS is just a web server, it has good points and bad points.
> One of it's worst aspects is the fact that--since it's a "M$ crap"--it's one of the
> most popular targets, and... Have you noticed how loudly the unix mob "applauds"
> to every hole in anything from MS? however, it's quite different the other way
> around. apache.org has been breached. if I weren't subscribed to the new-httpd@
> list, I wouldn't know. toye.php.net has been breached. If I weren't a PHP developer
> taking part in PHP's QA I wouldn't know. see my point? you can happily move any
> "legacy" content to the IIS box, using either shlight (Sharity Light) or mod_proxy
> (or mod_rewrite, if you wish so) to "hide" the IIS, and focus on FBSD/Apache.

Let's keep things in perspective here ... The breach of Apache.org had
nothing to do with the Apache web server. That same method of breach
could have been used to breach ANY system - it was an admin error.
I'm not familiar with the toye.php.net breach, so I can't really comment
there.
And I have never said (and will never say) that IIS is "crippled". I
have said and will repeat that it's expensive, slow, non-standards
compliant and difficult to customize compared to Apache. It does work,
and can be used. I'm also not familiar with the newest version (since
I've stopped using it) so my information could be a bit out of date.
If you want to know which which is better, security wise, check out
bugtraq and other such services and see who has more reported problems.
Then decide for yourself.

> Well, while very standards-focused, the apache developers know that a strict
> implementation would lead the popularity of apache south. :) they provide hacks, which
> are enabled by default. Of course, these are often minor problems showing up in
> border situations. Or you might not notice at all. (that is nothing to say about
> other browsers!)

True ... it's funny to read through the config file and see the
allowances that are made for certain browsers that are known to be
broken.

-- 
If a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush,
then what can I get for two hands in the bush?

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