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Date:      Thu, 7 Dec 2006 13:44:08 -0500
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Chris <chrcoluk@gmail.com>
Cc:        s.c.sprong@student.utwente.nl, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: sshfs/nfs cause server lockup
Message-ID:  <20061207184408.GA31535@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <3aaaa3a0612071036v2df98097ncf9c962e43e6f39d@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <20061123162813.L3026@volte.student.utwente.nl> <20061123192532.GA81937@xor.obsecurity.org> <3aaaa3a0612071036v2df98097ncf9c962e43e6f39d@mail.gmail.com>

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On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 06:36:10PM +0000, Chris wrote:
> On 23/11/06, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> wrote:
> >On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 04:38:48PM +0100, s.c.sprong@student.utwente.nl=
=20
> >wrote:
> >> Chris <chrcoluk@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >kris a development on this, someone else posted about a nfs problem
> >> >and reading his post some starkling point he made about network cards,
> >> >he stated he only gets the bug on sis rl and fxp.
> >>
> >> Sorry for the misunderstanding, but I think that the 'NFS via TCP' thr=
ead
> >> covers other bugs, ie the inability to mount NFS v3 over TCP.
> >>
> >> I've tested the cards above, and the person I replied to encountered t=
he
> >> same bug with a bge card. My solution was to remove custom nfs settings
> >> in sysctl.conf. I don't know which one was the culprit because I don't
> >> have the time to look into it further.
> >>
> >> My poking uncovered a set of crashing bugs and potentially a livelock.
> >> I would agree that NFS is very fragile in RELENG_6.
> >> So far <fingers crossed> I've not run into an NFS server deadlock you
> >> described.
> >
> >Are you sure these are NFS problems and not ethernet driver problems?
> >
> >Kris
> >
> >
> >
>=20
> Had another lockup today, reattached to screen process to see both
> sshfs mounts timed out when running sshfs to remount the terminal
> stopped updating, it didnt disconnect me and an ircd running on the
> server remained functional and the server responded to pings, however
> the terminal was dead and I couldnt login on ssh for a new session, a
> ctrl-alt-del also failed to reboot it and it needed a power cycle
> again.
>=20
> I have googled researched and read dozens and dozens of nfs bug
> reports where most of them seem to be a problem caused by nfs not
> disconnecting properly leaving itself in a bad state, the fix is
> usually to reboot.  I am having to reboot weekly more often then my
> windows desktop pc, everyone else having no problems with the nfs on
> their linux servers having no problems and its hardly inspiring that
> the stable freebsd is not stable.  All these problems on google didnt
> get fixed no dev attention etc.

They probably got "no dev attention" because the user didn't submit
any usable information ;-)

Yes, that's a hint.  If this problem really is important to you then
you need to find the time to set up a suitable debugging environment
so the developers can begin to help you.  Until then we can't do
anything no matter how many emails you send.

> So far I have not got my local bsd box up and running yet due to no
> keyboard still need parts for it.

Kris

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