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Date:      12 Aug 2001 06:02:16 -0000
From:      dev-null@no-id.com
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: Netcape Browser [RANT]
Message-ID:  <20010812060216.37051.qmail@propane.zoomph.net>

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>Does "Netscape" run poperly on FreeBSD v4.3? 

No, it doesn't. It's a pile of junk. There
are people with their stupid fixes like
"disable java and javascript," but you
might as well go all the way and disable
images or just rm the damn thing. 

Netscape gets worse with each generation:
more memory scrooging and the freezes
occur more frequently. Despite the
apparent absurdity of the idea, 
*something* gives Netscape the power to 
lock up window managers, crash X, and 
even reboot the entire system on
occasion. There's stability for you.


>All I can seem to find is 
>Netscape v7.5 for FreeBSD v2.2. Or, does IE have a version >that runs on 
>FBSD?

Microsoft have only ported IE to HPUX and Solaris,
last time I checked.

Most *nix purists are quick to jump down Microsoft's
throat, but AT LEAST THEIR BROWSER WORKS (and
the security holes of Windows acclaim shouldn't
really be much of a problem on their port).

>If all else fails, can someone point me in the direction of >a really good 
>browser that will run on FBSD v4.3?

Unfortunately, there are no good browsers that
will run under FreeBSD. The advice given to me
in my thread "Web Browsers (is there hope?)" was
to use Windows to surf the Net. Some idiot, 
completely missing the point, suggested to
use an IRC client instead of a browser (go
figure).

Netscape blows. Opera runs longer but still
crashes on the average of 15-20 minutes
for me. There are other browsers that are
too closely tied to a particular window
manager or environment. And there are the
browsers like Mozilla that require a
fucking arm and leg just to get a working
browser installed and the other arm and
leg just to get Java support in some wonky 
fashion, only to crash in a clowd of smoke 
minutes after execution.

I'm still looking for a decent browser
to run. http://browserwatch.internet.com/
lists some candidates, but you'll notice
they lack support for features which
are mandatory in a browser these days
(CSS, Java, etc.), they're CLI browsers,
or they're coded in some stuffed-shirt
tosser language like Java (SUPPORT 
Java, but don't WRITE the damn web
browser in Java).

Inhale.

>Ron

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