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Date:      Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:37:43 -0500
From:      Mathew KANNER <mat@cs.mcgill.ca>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>, Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>, "G. Adam Stanislav" <adam@whizkidtech.net>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Laugh: [Fwd: Microsoft Security Bulletin MS01-008]
Message-ID:  <20010209153743.D18596@cs.mcgill.ca>
In-Reply-To: Greg Lehey's message [Re: Laugh: [Fwd: Microsoft Security Bulletin MS01-008]] as of Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 02:31:21PM %2B1030
References:  <xzpzofxffa2.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> <3A81DDC9.EF6D7D84@originative.co.uk> <3.0.6.32.20010207223155.009d42a0@mail85.pair.com> <20010208110159.E2429@lpt.ens.fr> <xzpzofxffa2.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> <20010208150641.A15166@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010208193726.04763b10@localhost> <20010209143121.J16260@wantadilla.lemis.com>

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On Feb 08, Greg Lehey wrote:
> On Thursday,  8 February 2001 at 19:39:21 -0700, Brett Glass wrote:
> > At 07:06 AM 2/8/2001, Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> >
> >> And I learned of this amusing situation in French: the plural pronoun,
> >> unlike in English, is gender-biased; it's "elles" only when the gender
> >> of all parties is feminine, otherwise (for all-masculine or mixed)
> >> it's "ils".
> >
> > Ah, but at least they have the unisex pronoun "on."
> 
> "on" is masculine.  Yes, it's used to represent females as well.  But
> that's what we did in English too, until Political Correctness got the
> better of grammar.

	Really?  I have a vague memory of being taught that it was
used when the speaker is referring to a group of people, which he is a
member of -- no inference on the makeup of the group nor speaker can
be made,  Much like "we" in English.
	On a un-related note, when I was growing up, I bounced between
fracophone and anglophone schools, as a result, I don't really know
any language well.  Can anyone suggest a good "English grammar for
programmers" type book?

	--Mat
> 
> Greg
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Mathew Kanner <mat@CS.McGill.CA>  Sys Admin at large
   Obtuse quote: He [not me] understands: "This field of perception
   is void of perception of man." -- The Quintessence of Buddhism 


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