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Date:      Tue, 12 Sep 2006 23:28:35 +0930
From:      "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Cc:        Christian Laursen <xi@borderworlds.dk>
Subject:   Re: gjournal and Softupdates
Message-ID:  <200609122328.36605.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <ygfirjto0z2.fsf@dominion.borderworlds.dk>
References:  <45066E19.2040405@kuehlbox.de> <ee5vat$fcb$1@sea.gmane.org> <ygfirjto0z2.fsf@dominion.borderworlds.dk>

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On Tuesday 12 September 2006 19:34, Christian Laursen wrote:
> Ivan Voras <ivoras@fer.hr> writes:
> > - todays desktop drives can lie about writing data. SoftUpdates relies
> > on some assumptions about when the data is physically written to
> > media, and those are not always valid today
>
> I think journaling relies on the same assumptions.

You can disable write caching on your disks (most even honour it :) however=
 a=20
lot of people choke at the performance hit..

One big problem is that high capacity disks use track writing - if you modi=
fy=20
a single sector the disk re-writes the whole track.

If the power fails during the track write then you lose potentially complet=
ely=20
unrelated data. This affects all file systems equally though.

=2D-=20
Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
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are so many of them to choose from."
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