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Date:      10 Feb 2002 12:24:23 -0500
From:      Joe Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>
To:        sobomax@FreeBSD.ORG
Cc:        Anders Andersson <anders@hack.org>, Ade Lovett <ade@FreeBSD.ORG>, gnome@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Work on GNOME2
Message-ID:  <1013361864.59228.8.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com>
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On Sun, 2002-02-10 at 10:49, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-02-10 at 11:17, Anders Andersson wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 02:59:52AM -0600, Ade Lovett wrote:
> > > On 02/10/02 02:43, "Maxim Sobolev" <sobomax@mail.ru> wrote:
> > > > I suspect that at least two people (Ade and Anders) independently
> > > > started some initial work on getting GNOME2 bits and pieces together for
> > > > FreeBSD and I wonder if the better approach would be to put ongoing work
> > > > into remotely accessible cvs repo. This approach played just fine when
> > > > we were working on FreeBSD/GNOME site and I think should also help in
> > > > this case by reducing duplicate efforts and drawing more resources to
> > > > the work.
> > > 
> > > I'm not convinced about the need for a separate cvs repo for this, but I do
> > > think that we should be thinking about putting out an x11/gnome2 metaport
> > > based on the current tarballs as soon as possible, to get the new technology
> > > into the ports tree and available for experimentation by more advanced GNOME
> > > users (ie: those that don't mind trashing their systems).
> > > 
> > > At the moment, I am in the process of setting up a sandboxed 4-STABLE
> > > environment for complete testing and  development of gnome2/FreeBSD
> > > alongside the existing gnome metaport.
> > > 
> > > I am not yet sure of the exact procedure that will be needed in terms of
> > > incorporating gnome2 into the tree in terms of repo-copies.
> 
> Ade, please think this out and let us discuss your plan, so that there
> are no duplicated (e.g. wasted) efforts. Perhaps if there would be no
> intermediate cvs repo then some evolutionary approach should be used  -
> i.e. instead of trying to put it all together and then commit as a one
> big megapatch (the task which certainly would take quite some time)
> start committing it ASAP component by component in the dependency order.
> This also solves problem with massive number of repo copying required,
> as the work would be spread over some period of time.

This is especially true since there are already some GNOME 2 components
in the ports tree (gtk 1.3, glib 1.3, pango, and atk).  The GNOME 2.0
developer site is also a great resources for modules versions and the
dependency list (http://developer.gnome.org/dotplan/).

> 
> > > Perhaps the time has come to agree upon an initial set of snapshot distfiles
> > > that we will use for x11/gnome2, then use those to develop the initial
> > > platform, with upgrades occuring after the initial x11/gnome2 metaport etc
> > > has been built and committed to the tree.
> 
> I think that GNOME2 alpha 2 could be a good start.

Agreed.  

> 
> > > For something as big as gnome2, I think we should be at least offering this
> > > directly to end-users, with the big red letter saying "if you want 'stable'
> > > GNOME, use 1.x, but feel free to try 2.x if you want to be famous", rather
> > > than a private cvs-repo.
> > 
> > I have to agree with Ade here. I think putting our early work in the
> > ports tree for GNOME2 would be a good thing.
> 
> See my comments above.

But who will work on which components?  Would it be a benefit if to set
up some kind of group project system insofar as to let the group know
what modules people are working on?

Joe



> 
> -Maxim



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