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Date:      Tue, 03 Feb 1998 19:08:38 -0800
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>
To:        Karl Denninger <karl@mcs.net>
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, mckusick@mckusick.com
Subject:   Re: kirk's soft-update integration..
Message-ID:  <34D7DBB6.33590565@whistle.com>
References:  <34D7D0B0.500F9F30@whistle.com> <19980203203526.20512@mcs.net>

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Karl Denninger wrote:
> 
> How is this a "poison pill"?
> 
> I don't see the problem - FreeBSD, which is what this would go into, is
> already available in source and object form at no cost or for the reasonable
> distribution cost (if you buy a CDROM).
> 
>

the problem is not for freebsd, but ISPs and such who may be
tempted to use it to put on systems they place at custommer's premises.

Whistle has a license, but the GENERIC system as distributed probably 
couldn't have it compiled in.

I myself am not to clear on the terms..
maybe kirk (who is CC'd) can give a non-binding "This is what I mean"
interpretation for us?
It's to whistle's advantage to integrate these changes back some time
this
year, but it's up to each commercial user to negotiate with Kirk I
guess.


> >
> > the license is:
> >
> > /*
> >  * Copyright 1997 Marshall Kirk McKusick. All Rights Reserved.
> >  *
> >  * The soft updates code is derived from the appendix of a University
> >  * of Michigan technical report (Gregory R. Ganger and Yale N. Patt,
> >  * "Soft Updates: A Solution to the Metadata Update Problem in File
> >  * Systems", CSE-TR-254-95, August 1995).
> >  *
> >  * The following are the copyrights and redistribution conditions that
> >  * apply to this copy of the soft update software. For a license
> >  * to use, redistribute or sell the soft update software under
> >  * conditions other than those described here, please contact the
> >  * author at one of the following addresses:
> >  *
> >  *      Marshall Kirk McKusick          mckusick@mckusick.com
> >  *      1614 Oxford Street              +1-510-843-9542
> >  *      Berkeley, CA 94709-1608
> >  *      USA
> >  *
> >  * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
> >  * modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions
> >  * are met:
> >  *
> >  * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
> >  *    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
> >  * 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
> >  *    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in
> > the
> >  *    documentation and/or other materials provided with the
> > distribution.
> >  * 3. None of the names of McKusick, Ganger, Patt, or the University of
> >  *    Michigan may be used to endorse or promote products derived from
> >  *    this software without specific prior written permission.
> >  * 4. Redistributions in any form must be accompanied by information on
> >  *    how to obtain complete source code for any accompanying software
> >  *    that uses the this software. This source code must either be
> > included
> >  *    in the distribution or be available for no more than the cost of
> >  *    distribution plus a nominal fee, and must be freely
> > redistributable
> >  *    under reasonable conditions. For an executable file, complete
> >  *    source code means the source code for all modules it contains.
> >  *    It does not mean source code for modules or files that typically
> >  *    accompany the operating system on which the executable file runs,
> >  *    e.g., standard library modules or system header files.
> >  *
> >  * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY MARSHALL KIRK MCKUSICK ``AS IS'' AND ANY
> >  * EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE
> > IMPLIED
> >  * WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE
> > ARE
> >  * DISCLAIMED.  IN NO EVENT SHALL MARSHALL KIRK MCKUSICK BE LIABLE FOR
> >  * ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR
> > CONSEQUENTIAL
> >  * DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE
> > GOODS
> >  * OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION)
> >  * HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT,
> > STRICT
> >  * LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY
> > WAY
> >  * OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY
> > OF
> >  * SUCH DAMAGE.
> >  *
> >  *      @(#)ffs_softdep.c       9.12 (McKusick) 12/2/97
> >  */



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