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Date:      Tue, 02 May 2000 09:56:26 +0100
From:      "Koster, K.J." <K.J.Koster@kpn.com>
To:        'Rob Fowler' <rjf@cs.rice.edu>, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: [Fwd: someone has an idea ?]
Message-ID:  <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452201313B3C@l04.research.kpn.com>

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Signalling is easy, use /dev/speaker. You can write whole songs in simple
basic tunes. :-)

It's in use at TCCN in Nijmegen (NL) to signal that the printer servers are
available. I forget what song they use, but I'm sure you can come up with
something.

    Kees Jan

==============================================
 You are only young once,
      but you can stay immature all your life


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Fowler [mailto:rjf@cs.rice.edu]
> Sent: vrijdag 28 april 2000 20:42
> To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: [Fwd: someone has an idea ?]
> 
> 
> It's easy if the operator can come in over the net, but if 
> you want a "front-panel
> shutdown" function on a box without keyboard or other obvious 
> I/O devices,
> you'll have to make do with what your hardware has.  If there 
> is a button or switch
> you can use as a sensor, then all you need is a demon 
> monitoring that function.
> This may require hardware and/or software hacking.
> 
> A couple of years ago we were running a small keyboard-less 
> cluster that was usually 
> FreeBSD, but occasionally had to be brought up under Linux.  
> The solution was to
> use the presence absence of a LILO floppy as the control for 
> bringing the 
> system up.  The drill was to put LILO floppies in all the 
> drives (or remove them)
> and force reboots over the net through a script.  Sleazy, but 
> effective.
> 
> If the floppy drive is not being used, you might try the 
> inverse of the floppy trick.
> Write a script that tries to open a file called 
> <obscure_name> on the floppy and halts
> if successful.  Run it under cron with an appropriate 
> interval, or just wrap it
> in sleep loop and start the script when the system boots.  
> Tell the operator to 
> stick the bright red floppy in the drive and wait xx seconds 
> before powering down.
> 
> The tricky thing may be signalling the operator when it 
> really is OK to power down. If
> the box is new enough to shut itself off on a halt, then 
> you're done.  Otherwise,
> you may have to have the kernel beep a couple of times after 
> it's done sync'ing.
> 
> -- Rob
> 
> > 
> > On 28-Apr-00 Philippe Charron wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Im a trying to do a FreeBSD box without any keyboard 
> (this machine will
> > > be a Squid, HTTP and FTP serveur for non specialist 
> person that can't
> > > handle with a Unix system).
> > >
> > > As the user can't shutdown properly the computer, he has 
> to press the
> > > power button to switch off the box.
> > > This leads to problems with fsck and inode lost in the system.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have an idea to solve this problem ?
> > >
> > > Thanx in avance
> > > Philippe
> > >> 
> >
> 
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