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Date:      Sun, 13 Oct 2002 11:10:38 +0300
From:      Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/man Makefile.inc src/share/mk bsd.man.mk src/usr.bin/catman catman.c
Message-ID:  <20021013081038.GA14919@sunbay.com>
In-Reply-To: <20021013003257.GA64063@wantadilla.lemis.com>
References:  <200210110916.g9B9GP8f064951@freefall.freebsd.org> <20021012040759.A23338@chiark.greenend.org.uk> <20021012155812.GA36832@sunbay.com> <20021013003257.GA64063@wantadilla.lemis.com>

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On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 10:02:57AM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> On Saturday, 12 October 2002 at 18:58:12 +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 04:07:59AM +0100, Tony Finch wrote:
> >> On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 02:16:24AM -0700, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> >>>
> >>>   So turn off the color support for now (when generating catpages),
> >>>   until we figure out what do we do with this new feature.  I have
> >>>   a patch for grotty(1) that tells it to use the "reverse video"
> >>>   attribute to render the italic font.  Once this is accepted, we
> >>>   can turn color support back on (if there won't be any objections
> >>>   from the community).
> >>
> >> I much prefer the current lack of use of reverse video by man in xterm=
s.
> >> If it were introduced it would do grievous harm to readability. I much
> >> prefer the idea of colour -- in fact here's a gratuitous plug for w3mm=
an
> >> [|-....o
> >>
> > I think you have not understand the problem.  Under xterm, the underlin=
ed
> > mode just works, so there is no problem running
> >
> > nroff -man /usr/src/bin/cat/cat.1 |less -R
> >
> > But try the same under "cons25", and see how "file ..." is rendered in
> > the SYNOPSIS.
>=20
> I've been waiting for groff 1.18 exactly because of the colour
> support.  I can understand that it's a nuisance under the
> circumstances you describe, but I would be disappointed to see it
> turned off altogether.  There must be some way to just not make it the
> default.  Or is that what you're doing?
>=20
Yes.  I've sent the patch for grotty(1) that allows it to use the
"reverse video" attribute to render the italic font in the nroff
mode.  After this is accepted (and I'm sure it will be), I plan
to import the patch and turn the color support back on.


Cheers,
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