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Date:      Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:11:46 +1100 (EST)
From:      Bruce Evans <brde@optusnet.com.au>
To:        Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org, remko@FreeBSD.org, yuri@tsoft.com, bug-followup@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: kern/120869: [procfs] 'stat' shows that all files have 0-length when they are actually not empty
Message-ID:  <20080221210145.C4879@besplex.bde.org>
In-Reply-To: <20080221093203.Y52922@fledge.watson.org>
References:  <200802201208.m1KC8MHi009288@freefall.freebsd.org> <20080220132030.S14519@fledge.watson.org> <20080221202027.B29307@delplex.bde.org> <20080221093203.Y52922@fledge.watson.org>

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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Robert Watson wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Bruce Evans wrote:
>>> [about files in procfs]
>> The bug is mainly that stat() claims that the files are regular when they 
>> highly irregular (they are more like fifos).  This confuses naive 
>> applications into thinking that normal access methods for regular files 
>> actually work.
>
> I feel this way more generally about synthetic file systems with objects in 
> them that don't correspond with any of the standard file system objects that 
> applications known how to deal with.

Enough to break compatibility/portabiility by adding a new file type? :-)
S_IFMT has 4 bits, so it could encode 16 file types, but it currently only
encodes 8.  It looks like it once had only 3 bits but was expanded for
fifos.  It was last changed in ~1993 in 4.4BSD to add whiteouts.

Bruce



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