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Date:      Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:11:49 +0000
From:      Josef Karthauser <joe@pavilion.net>
To:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Severe problems with softupdates.
Message-ID:  <19991111201148.A5748@florence.pavilion.net>

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Hi guys,

I'm still trying to recover my laptop from a really severe filesystem
crash using softupdates.  The machine hung due to a problem with
power managment so it needed a reboot.  Now fsck won't clean up without
complaining bitterly about 'softupdate' problems, ultimately coming to
a halt with a 'can't find inode XXXX' message.  I've confirmed with fsdb
that the inode in question does exist, so why is fsck complaining?  Clearing
the inode in question allows fsck to proceed, and ultimately land on another
inode that exists, but it "can't find".

I've searched the lists and this message appear to reference the same
problem:

Date:      Wed, 20 Oct 1999 01:58:31 -0400 (EDT)
From:      "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" <marcus@miami.edu>
To:        Mark Powell <M.S.Powell@salford.ac.uk>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: How to fix cant load /kernel ???? Also soft updates fs corruption.
Message-ID:  <Pine.OSF.4.10.9910200155480.9385-100000@jaguar.ir.miami.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9910191604050.64477-100000@localhost>

I'm running -current; I don't know what Mark was running.

Kirk mentioned that he was confident that softupdates was 'safe', but I've
had files (from a previous crash - recovered from) in lost+found that I
didn't touch, and no-way should have become disconnected from the file
system - they weren't even in buffercache at the time of the crash.

I believe that Brian has also had the same problems (at FreeBSDCon).

Can people put their hands up if they believe that they've experienced this
so that we can determine whether there's a deeper softupdates problem that
we're ignoring on faith?

Also if anyone knows how to recover from it I'd be very grateful to know.
My /usr partition is uncleanable (although I can 'mount -f' it!! nasty!!).

Joe.
-- 
Josef Karthauser	FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today?
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