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Date:      Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:20:10 -0700
From:      Chuck Swiger <cswiger@mac.com>
To:        Gary Kline <kline@thought.org>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: When gcc43 is expected to be in base?
Message-ID:  <0F274EB7-AB91-45E3-89ED-3ADCC42F9E42@mac.com>
In-Reply-To: <20080804230918.GA12219@thought.org>
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On Aug 4, 2008, at 4:09 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 04:52:37PM -0400, Gerard wrote:
>> Since it appears to be apparent that newer software might very well  
>> be
>> released under the GPLv3 license, it might behoove the FreeBSD team  
>> to
>> rethink its ideas or beliefs regarding the inclusion of such software
>> into the base system. At the very least, it might very well make life
>> easier for end users who need the support that programs using that
>> license are now offering.
>
> 	I must have missed something along the way, because I  don't
> 	understand what the "preferences" are to *not* use 4.3.  I have
> 	it buiilt and runing here on my mail desktop and at least one
> 	other FBSD server.
>
> 	Clues, please.

Oh, there's nothing wrong with you as an individual running gcc-4.3 if  
you like.

Nor is there anything wrong with the GPLv3 license-- it's well-crafted  
and handles certain technical issues resulting from varied legal  
systems quite well compared to most other licenses (eg, clause 17 for  
many European jurisdictions which do not permit one to completely  
disclaim liability), *provided* one is working on completely open  
systems.

However, anyone who needs to do things with cryptography and signing  
is going to find GPLv3 clauses 3 and 6 unworkable.  FreeBSD (and  
NetBSD, OpenBSD, etc) are attractive for people building embedded  
systems because they are (mostly) not GPL(v2)-encumbered, and adopting  
GPLv3 code would make that problem worse.

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck




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