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Date:      Sat, 2 Dec 2017 21:47:55 -0700
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com>
Cc:        Eitan Adler <lists@eitanadler.com>, "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <arch@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Deprecating / Removing floppy drive support
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On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com>
wrote:

> bms@ has given me USB floppy formatting code which I'd planned to merge
>
into fdformat but considering the underlying devices are so very different
> it would be a difficult marriage. I'd be willing to support a ufdformat
> instead.


I'm keen on getting that into the tree. I have a ufd device and a need to
use it from time to time. If nothing else, I can be a reviewer of the code.
Is ufd working for you?


> >
> > Normally, I'd argue we might want to have a release where it's
> deprecated,
> > but it already was unusable in 11, and barely usable in 10 and has been a
> > shadow of its former self for much longer than that.
>
> The reason to keep some form of floppy support, eder fd or ufd is for the
> purpose of copying (dd) floppy media into image files for use with
> virtualbox or bhyve VMs. -- (One could say the same for CD and DVD drives.
> My new laptop at $JOB has no CD/DVD drive.) I digress. I think the ability
> to copy media to image files for VMs might be a reason to keep some form of
> support fd or ufd.


I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here...

Warner



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